Cervantes as DLC? Hell no!!!
Dampierre confirmed.They are wanting to see what real fans of the series want, and are trying not to confuse the demands of random people that played a or Soul Calibur games when they were younger but just lost interest and would never buy a Soul Calibur game otherwise.
Yeah, muscular dark-skinned females like these are OK. But they said "large and muscular dark skinned". This reminds me of the SC3 mod videos made by Owen on Youtube, where Astaroth were playing some female character's moves. Just check "Astaroth with Setsuka's weapon exhibition" and some modded endings where Astaroth played as Rock's girl friend or boyfriend...If only Black Panther was released earlier. They could have taken inspiration from the kick-ass women in that film instead of... hentai...
this is a FAT post with lots of juicy bits! Thanks.I got some very interesting new information back from my main SCVI source.
But the new information was pretty plentiful, so I'm going to do my best to paraphrase
Lost Swords (ignoring the gameplay decisions) I thought was just a cash grab + temporary game that keeps the Soul Calibur brand still fresh in people's mind.■ Project Soul and Bandai Namco specifically don't want some kind of Lost Swords situation to happen again and want a closer connection to the community.
Good.They are wanting to see what real fans of the series want, and are trying not to confuse the demands of random people that played a or Soul Calibur games when they were younger but just lost interest and would never buy a Soul Calibur game otherwise.
Basically, they're tuning out the ludicrous demands.
• Very good. This shows how important it is for posters to not CLUTTER up threads with pointless shitposts (you know who you are) and the mods need to be vigilant in cleaning up / organizing the threads because you never know when the data-gatherers might be reading.■ There are people that they have hired to manage social media and browse around with the intent of collecting data and opinions of what people are saying about the game and the series in general.
Most specifically they are paying attention to us here at 8WayRun, ... and threads about my leaks, which apparently directly impacted things like Zasalamel not being a DLC character, which was planned until the response to that was universally panned.
I think we all know that the casuals make up the overwhelming majority, but at the same time there is a large portion of "casuals" who are only into the superficial shallow stuff that don't appreciate the nuances of the fighting game genres like the veterans. Things such as the determination of the guest character is basically a non-factor for veterans, but imo is critical for casual fans. At the same time, you won't get veteran fans who didn't start out as casual fans so there is a compromise.Anyways those things and people mentioned are who and what they are most closely following and paying attention to to get the best idea of public opinion and what people want in the game from various types of playerbases:
Casual fighting game players and gamers in general, fighting game veterans that don't play Soul Calibur, and Soul Calibur veteran players are an example to let you know what playerbases they're looking at.
Interesting. Maybe we can double-down on our messages via those other message boards.Furthermore they are browsing places like reddit, 2ch, and 4chan to see what people are saying unfiltered as those are places they feel people post some of their most uncensored thoughts that they feel they don't always on Youtube, beit as videos or on comments on videos, or streams.
The lack of grounded / semi-realistic new characters bothers me as well.■ The character design and battle planning team apparently have voiced some regrets for character designs ...
Those being character styles like a "traditional and semi realistic" swordsman using real sword techniques that aren't usually in video games.
They were given examples like "Half-Swording and the Murder Stroke" specifically.
• I REALLY thought project soul would have taken inspiration (for character design, not game mechanics) from For Honor, when the game was announced.They actually cited the game For Honor as inspiration.
• A tanned / muscular woman would likely mean she won't really be covered up, since you won't be able to tell otherwise. It'll be a step in an opposition direction to Hilde, but hopefully Project Soul could pull it off (instead of trying to make a darker, more jacked Ivy).But there was apparently a lot of the Japanese design team into the "large and muscular women" character type idea and the "dark skinned women" archetype that they noticed is popular now in fighting games with many of the new installments in major franchises including one like Guilty Gear (Ramlethal), Street Fighter (Menat), and Tekken (Master Raven). And even non-fighting game characters like Urbosa.
• Solid theory. I've noticed you've always mentioned characters by their canonical relationship to existing characters (maybe thats how your leaks referred to them).They said that some of the people working on the game are fans of an artist called 23 who also goes by sela_god and Real XXIII, and that some of their work that's of big, muscular, dark skinned women was inspiring said female character design to some extent that they wanted to put in the game but didn't have the opportunity to.
I had to look up who this artist they mentioned was, but fair share of warning it is NSFW lol
It makes me wonder if because this "large and muscular dark skinned woman" character idea was one they passed on, that it means SCVI had a new female character addition planned, but because she didn't wind up being chosen, SCVI isn't getting a new female character this time around for a change?
I still find it a little strange that I've heard about Grøh, Grøh's dad, and even Maxi's lover if he's also a playable character when it comes to new characters, but still no new female until this now. I don't know if the game is getting one or not yet, as I've said before. But I know that a lot of people are suspicious and worrying that there might not be one for a change.
It really makes me wonder if she was going to be it, but they ultimately and regretfully had to pass on her.
Hey feel free to introduce yourselves! I can't guarnatee you won't be bombarded by some "ludicrous demands" unfortunately.■ I was told specifically that it would benefit the game by sharing this because if there is enough demand for those kinds of characters, they might do it and include them down the line or get the content creators and communities a lot more vocal about what they want to see in the game and how Bandai Namco treats the community, knowing that they ARE listening.
You're doing good work.Since apparently the creators and communities are pretty silent about what they want to see happen and just discuss what's already in the game, I'm tasked to, in layman's terms, help bring it together by sharing this information with you as it helps everyone.
Them, us, and the game itself.
I have just a nitpick about this and this might come off as "sjw-ish." I don't like the idea of a "dark-skinned female," being considered an "archetype." It just screams tokenism [and fetishism to an extent]. Just make a cool character, who happens to be dark-skinned. They did it with Zas, so they could do it for a woman, too. Part of the reason why the women in Black Panther were so heavily praised was because the film treated them with significance. It's not that hard to doBut there was apparently a lot of the Japanese design team into the "large and muscular women" character type idea and the "dark skinned women" archetype that they noticed is popular now in fighting games with many of the new installments in major franchises including one like Guilty Gear (Ramlethal), Street Fighter (Menat), and Tekken (Master Raven). And even non-fighting game characters like Urbosa.
I know what you mean. Make their character bad ass even without the skin colour, and then make them happen to be dark skinned. What Verge is trying to say (I hope I'm not misinterpreting the intentions of the developers) is they're trying to put in traits that are "cool" at the moment. I don't think they're trying to fit in a quota, but they also want to make a character that is instantly recognizable as different from the existing cast.I have just a nitpick about this and this might come off as "sjw-ish." I don't like the idea of a "dark-skinned female," being considered an "archetype." It just screams tokenism [and fetishism to an extent]. Just make a cool character, who happens to be dark-skinned.
I don't mean to derail the topic, but that's just my two cents
This is why I made the team battle poll thread. If people haven't voted yet could they kindly do so? Can then link results/discussion directly to Okubo. Only prob I can see with team battle is how the meter would work but if you've any ideas.. share them!I'm tasked to, in layman's terms, help bring it together by sharing this information with you as it helps everyone.
Them, us, and the game itself.