What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thread)

What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

Hay Shinobi, tell me all you know about basketball. Wikipedia plagiarism doesn't count.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

I was wondering how safe and useful WS B+K is. I like the animation of the move and noticed that when blocked you end up BT behind the opponent. I just don't know how safe it is or if there is a good use for it. I also like how I can follow up with the updraft moves. Sadly the updraft A always whiffs for some reason.

edit- I was also wondering how far in negative frames does a move have to be for it to be unsafe on block. I mean when a move is block how far down negative would it have to be to be unsafe.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

Hahahaha I <3 you guys. More people than I thought seem to know of me around here these days. Scary.

hotnikkelz got you covered there xosra. The move is special-mid and too slow to be used regularly. It's too situational because of that.

I'm reworking the Tira guide in Tiamat fashion. Hopefully it'll be helpful for us all. I'm learning stuff just by trying to make it.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

The sad part is that while Tira has a GREAT set of WR moves, they're all mid, and pretty easy to GI as well. No move that puts you in FC will ever have enough frames (or leave the opponent standing) for you to use WR B+K safely, and landing in BT isn't a very safe option either since you'll just likely eat a free backthrow.

Updraft A is sort of a garbage move anyways. I always stick to either Updraft B or Updraft K if I ever use it, and I never use it from WR B+K, especially since you only get the Updraft followup if it hits.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

I was also wondering how far in negative frames does a move have to be for it to be unsafe on block. I mean when a move is block how far down negative would it have to be to be unsafe.

That depends on your character. It's generally when you're at -16 and above that you start eating uglier stuff (This depends on whether the move puts them in crouch on block, too). Against white chicks, you can typically be punished if they block a move that's -14 and sometimes less, so be aware of that.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

I've toyed around with WS B+K and found out that it techtraps everything but left after CH GS 2A+B in corners or near the edge.
So in front of a small wall CH GS 2A+B -> iWS B+K K can lead to a RO. Nothing big but nice to know its there :-)
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

But... there's so much cooler things you can do from CH GS 2A+B =O BF 666K, or 22A~BF 444K, 44K, BF 666B, or etc.

Does anyone know if you can get 4A:A from CH GS 2A+B at all? Like, maybe after CH GS 2A+B, 22A, 4A:A ? I'm not near my Xbox right now so I can't test.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

But... there's so much cooler things you can do from CH GS 2A+B =O BF 666K, or 22A~BF 444K, 44K, BF 666B, or etc.

Sure that's cooler and more damaging, but in front of a small walls, let's say those on the ships the iWS B+K could lead to a RO while 22A or 66K don't.

Does anyone know if you can get 4A:A from CH GS 2A+B at all?
Yep you can get CH 2A+B, 4A:A , BF 44K, BF44K, BF66B. But 22A-> 4A:A won't work.
EDIT: i'm not quite sure about 22A->4A:A i got it very few times now but not constantly.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

(cred to Mikosu) CH GS 2A+B, 22A ~ 6Aaaaa rings out over low walls, and it's guaranteed. The timing's just a bit tricky, but I doubt anyone will fall for a tech trap off of CH 2A+B, especially from Tira.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

Ah cool i didn't know this one. Sure this one works better than mine, thx.
 
fame traps and punishing

just recently started messing around with tira and notice i can punish alot of attacks with 44444k does anyone know what this attack frames are and what it is on block cause it seems really safe also what do you guys use for frame advantage traps i know 66666a gives some advantes but i havnt found a good follow up besides that i dont really know much about tira and any tips would be helpful
 
fame traps and punishing

If you want frame numbers, do yourself a favor and look here.

For everything else, as chaos said, take a look over Mikosu's Tira guide thread.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

JS 44[K]. Did anyone confirm that this move switches more often than Jolly 44K?
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

JS 44[K]. Did anyone confirm that this move switches more often than Jolly 44K?

Gettin' back into Tira Draco? Yea it has a higher chance but even then it's not much. It's just not worth the risk IMO. Unless you have a HUGE life lead I'd never risk it. The HP loss is just too much for a CHANCE of change.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

Gettin' back into Tira Draco? Yea it has a higher chance but even then it's not much. It's just not worth the risk IMO. Unless you have a HUGE life lead I'd never risk it. The HP loss is just too much for a CHANCE of change.

Not by choice, but by need. Rock is... well... getting worse by the day as I discover (or fail to discover) more stuff. Mina is failing me since no one ever guards against her. Talim has a 0 chance against half the cast and their B's. So given the limited time I have before regionals, I'm considering picking up Tira. Got some practice online yesterday just to get the feel for her again. It's either her, Zas, or Maxi.
 
What's good with Tira? (General Discussion Thr

Not by choice, but by need. Rock is... well... getting worse by the day as I discover (or fail to discover) more stuff. Mina is failing me since no one ever guards against her. Talim has a 0 chance against half the cast and their B's. So given the limited time I have before regionals, I'm considering picking up Tira. Got some practice online yesterday just to get the feel for her again. It's either her, Zas, or Maxi.


Wow, are you intentionally dredging the bottom of the tier ladder?

I mean, it's admirable to choose a character for any reason other than "THERE TOP TIER OMG!" but your list of characters seems a bit too coincidentally awful to be attributed to any other reason than you hating yourself.
 
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