SCV Yoshimitsu Q&A and General Discussion

sunjino said:
welp then i need to start practicing its then
what is it 2a:B+K?

and is it the same time as a:B+K
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2a:B. I actually use 2a:B+K sometimes with my current setup in really panicky situations since both work. I started to do it with the face buttons but it's not yet as consistent as flicking my shoulder buttons. The catch is if you fuck it up you have a chance to go into MED which is awful where as 2a:B you'll usually get 2A from improper execution.
 
mkl said:
Still not a fan of his BEs. 3AB (BE) is the only one I've found useful outside of combos since 66A (BE) is unsafe.
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a:B+K, MCF, 66A BE, bA AT is a pretty zazzy combo and good damage! 110 ish

I find for some reason when MCF doesn't come out I get 2B more often and not just after moves if say I did it too early. I wonder if it's possible to do it too fast like within a frame and the B comes out as it was hit last....
 
Oboro said:
a:B+K, MCF, 66A BE, bA AT is a pretty zazzy combo and good damage! 110 ish

I find for some reason when MCF doesn't come out I get 2B more often and not just after moves if say I did it too early. I wonder if it's possible to do it too fast like within a frame and the B comes out as it was hit last....
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Only works on certain opponents. Check my work in... whatever thread I left it in. I'll look.

mkl said:
It's always good to go with the safer options out of iMCF I think.

I did extensive testing on iMCF > 66A (BE) > bA and this is what I discovered:

66A (BE) after iMCF will only connect on Natsu, Tira (??), ZWEI, Raph, Damp, Aeon, NM, Voldo, Asta, and Algol. Either I'm not RCCing fast enough for other characters or it's not possible. Aeon is a unique case though. bA will not give CH properties when you use it on him after the brave edge (at least patch that shit Bamco). bA is possible with the small but very doable window on all characters you can get 66A (BE) off on. If you're getting A after 66A (BE) for bA, you're doing it while you're still in the animation for the BE. If you don't connect at all because they fell you're doing it too late. It's a tight window of opportunity but it's very doable. Even if it's character specific it's 107 (109 w/ clean) if you start with CH a:B+K. This could be why Frostheart was having trouble getting bA off on certain characters after iMCF even without 66A (BE). I guess it just has to do with how a character crumples after iMCF because it has no relation to size. Tira is a Size 2 and it works fine. I say I'm guessing it's iMCF's fault because CH 66A (BE) > bA works on everyone.
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It works on everyone but the Pyrrhas if you're a Size 3 Yoshi, haha. Which is notable online. I can't find my notes on it, but I think I arrived at the fact that you couldn't even get bA off after iMCF on anyone but those characters listed.
 
mkl said:
Only works on certain opponents. Check my work in... whatever thread I left it in. I'll look.



It works on everyone but the Pyrrhas if you're a Size 3 Yoshi, haha. Which is notable online. I can't find my notes on it, but I think I arrived at the fact that you couldn't even get bA off after iMCF on anyone but those characters listed.
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If you start with a:B+K though it does work on everyone for some reason. I just tested it again to make sure on Leixia, Aeon and PEE-ra and the entire combo connects on all of them! Must be a distance or alignment thing the a:B+K forces.
 
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Oboro said:
If you start with a:B+K though it does work on everyone for some reason. I just tested it again to make sure on Leixia, Aeon and PEE-ra and the entire combo connects on all of them! Must be a distance or alignment thing the a:B+K forces.
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Nice, that is good to know. I don't get a whole lot of CHs with a:B+K but at least I know that's available if I do.
 
Oboro said:
a:B+K, MCF, 66A BE, bA AT is a pretty zazzy combo and good damage! 110 ish

I find for some reason when MCF doesn't come out I get 2B more often and not just after moves if say I did it too early. I wonder if it's possible to do it too fast like within a frame and the B comes out as it was hit last....
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a:B+K has a bit more recovery than you think. delay iMCF a bit should help you land it more consistently. :-)
 
It's not just off that combo. I'm talking in general. I land MCF like 90%. I'm not struggling with it at all. I was just stating that when I randomly miss it in practice from a straight standing position it more 2B than 2A which is odd and maybe a result of doing it too fast! Thanks for the input though man! If you have any tips on landing it on a joystick send that my way cause I bought a hitbox and I can't use Yoshi on it at all hahaha!!
 
Oboro said:
[...]from a straight standing position it more 2B than 2A which is odd and maybe a result of doing it too fast!
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As far as I know, you can't do it too fast and get just 2B. If you're getting 2B, that means you're entirely missing 2A. Do you have input display turned on in trainer so you can verify? If you can verify you're getting the AB markers in trainer.... I would be very surprised.

Here's what I do for iMCF that I'm sure works on a hitbox - rest your fingernail of your index finger next to A, then slide your fingernail across a->B. Make sure your timing for 2 fits with the 2a:B input. No wrap/powder/whatever required.
 
Supa said:
As far as I know, you can't do it too fast and get just 2B. If you're getting 2B, that means you're entirely missing 2A. Do you have input display turned on in trainer so you can verify? If you can verify you're getting the AB markers in trainer.... I would be very surprised.

Here's what I do for iMCF that I'm sure works on a hitbox - rest your fingernail of your index finger next to A, then slide your fingernail across a->B. Make sure your timing for 2 fits with the 2a:B input. No wrap/powder/whatever required.
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Thumb Condoms FTW!
 
For a second... I was trying to figure out how finger cots would help....

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I use an Xbox pad and place my thumb just outside of Y and slide across it to X and it works great! Like I said I get it 90%+ and end off every practice with 20 in a row. My buttons are reversed as you can tell.
 
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