@solid altair
I cannot follow you:
You play a character who sucks without CE and than you say he is good because his BE is good on BLOCK....
I didn't say Raph is good. I didn't even say his new BE is better than the old one. I just point out that the improved frames we got on the Patch are useful. And sometimes even the good players will block the last hit, unless they're the European Raph Terminators we still hope you'll show us.
The stun is coreographic but without CE it does less than old combos
What do you mean by coreographic? And even without CE the new stuns will lead to more damage than pre-patch, on CH.
I mean as long as you play in training mode with 2 full CE bars raph is strong....
I suspect (like some of my friends) some of you try to judge characters in training mode.....
Seriously: I hardly lack meter. Maybe some terminator can poke me to death without charging my meter enough, though. I'd like to see that, whether or not it'd happen to me.
And I don't judge characters by training mode. Sometimes you seem to me like you judge characters by looking at frame data sheets and assuming the players will (almost) always do the theoricatically correct thing and will have awesome reactions all the time.
As i said test raph against someone who knows you shouldn t charge your CE and that he can just play the same way raph should just winning by damage AND evasion with any other character.
I only felt outclassed by one guy, so far. He uses Mitsu, has 89% and has literally more than 10 times the amount of online fights I do. He was kind enough to give rematches. We fought 5 times. I lost all of them. I don't blame Raph. I didn't use Prep4 and PrepK, enough. I had awful reactions to his 4B. And from the furstraion born out of these mistakes, I ended up sucking at other aspects, as well.
My point is: maybe if I fix these errors, I'll get close to his level. If I fix these errors, feel like I'm using Raph to his best and still get hammered, then I'd start to consider Raph is probably tremendously non-viable.
In order to 'safely' say Raph is trash, one would need a quite a lot of data to back it up:
* Some Players of very high and similar level.
* These must be comfortable as Raph and at least a few other characters (at the very least 1, actually)
* They'd play a bunch of match ups, Raph being in all of them (there should be Raph mirror matches, too)
Then, if you confirm the high and tight level of the players, by the matches in general, including the mirrors... aaand Raph sucks badly in most match-ups, then yeah, Raph is kinda trash.
Are you on PS3 and do you leave in the Americas? Maybe we could fight to further a part od these tests and maybe you could teach me something.
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@everyone: I have posted some Post-Patch stuff on the videos thread. I humbly plea that you guys post some vids, too. I have no idea of how much post-patch strategy I'm missing.
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Don't know if they improved it or not but you can still step prep K with the right timing.
To either side. Even from not so close I suspect it maybe stepped, with a good timing, as Raph steps forward to throw the kick, he gets near you and that nearness will allow you to step the kick (I think... I guess it happened against me, once). But, bottom line is: it will hardly be stepped if you throw it from a good distance.
The aggravating thing is when they step your Prep A, to your right. It's quite a blind spot and I think it can only be remedied by delaying Prep A a little.
