How big do you think the gap between A tier and B tier is?
I honestly don't believe it's that big. The difference between most of the A and B in my list is either damage
and/or bad matchups. Viola is the only character I believe in my A portion but her damage and tools somewhat makeup
for it. Pyrrha doesn't have any bad matchups and has some really good tools but her damage doesn't warrant putting
her with the rest of the A tier in my opinion.
Now for my opinion. Is there a reason Cervantes is at the top?
Other than the fact that Cervantes is completely and utterly fuckin' bananas, no. Cervantes has pretty much every
tool you could possibly want and they're all really good so long as you're a good player. Not only that, but even
his punishable stuff is barely punishable or hard to punish by a lot of the cast. The risk/reward is always in his
favor, regardless of if he has meter or not. He can deal with any situation also, with some of the best
stepkilling/fast/longrange/mids or highs. Hell, his aB alone can make some matches seem impossible if used right.
Super Broken Amazing I Quit SCV forever omg Tier:
Nightmare
I feel the same way. =(
Why Astaroth and Omega so low? I personally see them above the rest of
these chars.
I've never felt that Ast was all that intimidating (Okay...well, I did in 4...and he's unarguably better now...but
yeah). I feel that he really needs to play a smart spacing/and poking game that's way too risky. The range of his
throws is really good, but guessing right on a throw often does as much (or more) than his throw would have done).
Not only that but he's very limited at close range, which is where he's supposed to be the scariest. His damage and
some of his good range attacks are the only thing make me put him so high.
Omega is so low because she, in my opinion, plays like an unsafe Pyrrha (which is bad). The strategy for Pyrrha has
always to turtle her and OPyr makes that's much more viable than regular Pyrrha. Sure, she has damage, throws, and
frametraps but I think the safety and her tools make her have to play a much smarter and more restricted game than
regular Pyrrha.
Regarding matchups:
Easy question: Which is the most lopsided matchup?
Hard question: Outside of mirrors, which match is the most 5:5 ? Like 5.000 : 5.0000 between two different
characters?
I think Viola vs. Ast is 7-3 in her favor. I also think Mit/NM vs. Viola is 7-3 in their favor.
Hard Question: I think most of Pyrrha and Mit's matches are pretty even. I think there are so many 5:5's that it'd
be hard to go down the list, though.
Could someone breakdown why aPat is top tier. I know he has
some great tools to work with but he also lacks some important tools as well. Most notably safe mid step kill. I
too agree he
He has 4k and 3A; his other stepkilling tools are good enough to do the job (not to mention throws on par with
Ast). His FC2K is more than good enough for stepkill, though.
I'm starting to think Nightmare might be a bit weaker than the other B tier characters, as he is a bit limited once you know your optimal choices against his options, and has some horrible matchups.
I think that Maxi, ZWEI and Xiba could be in a B- tier, maybe even C tier.
The thing about NM, in my opinion is that, while a lot of his tools become useless in some matchups, in other ones, they completely dominate and dictate the flow of the match. Not to mention that his movement (backstep) and ability to whiff punish from full screen already limits some characters tremendously.
I think Xiba is pretty damned good so I dunno. As for Maxi, I could see him being worse than I imagine, but not enough to be lumped in with Leixia and Raph.
These are in order right? So you believe Viola is at the bottom of top tier? Is there a particular reason for this other than her terrible range and punishment options?
Also what makes you believe that ZWEI deserves to be a spot higher than Raph?
I explained the Viola thing higher up. As for ZWEI, he does S-rank damage and I honestly think he probably deserves to be higher, but, as said earlier, no one has shown that he deserves a higher rating so it'd be pompous of me to put him any higher.
1. It was really hard for me to put some characters in any type of order in the B group (I wanted to put a lot of them right next to each other). As you observed, the biggest thing keeping most of them from being A even is either damage or matchups or some combination of both.
2. Pyrrha is like oPyr except overall simpler and safer. Her damage output isn't high but her safety and movement more than make up for that.
I don't agree with either of them. And it makes me laugh that the ones putting him there don't play Raphael at all. And all the other noobs just blindly follow as usual. I wonder what Heaton would say on the subject, for example, or YoungFox.
I agree that he's playable (hell, if he could combo better from 22b, he'd be cheapness). But I also believe he has to work much harder in some instances than a lot of the cast (on that same note, he does have an easier time with some things).
Also, I think ShenYuan is probably more qualified than I can ever be to speak on the matter of Tira.