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I don't know whose posts you're reading but like I said no one I knew ever noticed anything in SC2, it was there just barely commented on, in SC4 yes people did start to take notice but as I said I never did and I didn't play it enough with anyone else to make a judgment about how MUCH they were noticing, but it seemed to me they just didn't care about SC by this point. I'm just telling you what I saw.
SC3 was a decline for the game as a whole and I only ever played it once on PS2. The SC4 tournaments I watched had people more like me watching who weren't paying attention to any of that but focusing on the gameplay. As I've described I have no issue with how they present their characters just don't push it in my face like they did with those ads. I never saw any advertising for SC4 in this country whatsoever I simply bought it when I saw it in a shop some time after it was released and I had finally gotten a PS3 to play it on. Had never played it before.
And yes, gameplay does trump all, for me, as I'm the only one I can make that judgement on for sure, as I described it. Maybe all there is left is a horde of perverts out there who care more for things like Ivy's cleavage than gameplay and by the looks of this forum at least you may be right, but I prefer to hold out more hope than that.
People who complain about sexualization in games need a reality check, sex sells. And lets not pretend males in SC are not sexualized as fuck, case in point Rock. And lets be real, Algol was wearing tighty whities in V, it is not the females, the character design in SC a lot of times it is meant to represent their personality.
As a gay guy, I'm glad most dudes are shirtless in some level.
Oh, my, its almost revealing... that part...Not to mention:
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Nobody could match Yun-Seong in SC4.I said in another thread, I will say it again
Bring Z.W.E.I back because he was the hot one.
SC4's system was terrible. You'd never break the whole armor, there was no indication of how much it was damaged until it broke and you could never control it. Keeping the upper/mid/lower armor differentiation from SC4, but the requirement to hit specific attacks to break from SC5 makes it a healthy mechanic, allowing it to be properly used and countered.Man I hate the armor break in this game already. Wish it was like SCIV's at least.
We only have two characters announced and look at how much of a topic it's become with people trying to turn it into a battleground.
Algol is in his underwear because of Urien.
The problem is when the series goes overboard with its sexualization because people don't take the game seriously when that happens. We only have two characters announced and look at how much of a topic it's become with people trying to turn it into a battleground.
I'm fine with having a couple of characters who fill that role or if people want to customize their characters to make them sexy, but it becomes an issue when the game makes it a focus like they started with the slo mo shots of Sophie's cleavage.
Sex sells, but so does substance.
You never know, they might've intended for him to be included since the game was rushed and all.I know this could mean nothing at all considering when we had SC5 algol stage one was holding a scythe like Zasalamel (what a tease!)
Only a vocal minority, but with social media so accessible it is easy for the loudest to be heard (not necessarily the best points made, but relying on hashtags)
On the subject of sexualization and nudity, I find it ridiculous that it (along with language) is seen as more taboo than violence and gore...
But this type of discussion happens with every game now, it used to happen if the game insulted some christian value, that was the old issue, people fussing about.
Now people are insulted by fanservice, which like always, will make a few game journalist pressed as fuck, but it will still sell because only a minority of the buyers would be so insulted they wouldn't buy the game. I don't know about you, but substance is found in gameplay and game modes for a fighting game. People so easily forget SC is made up by Japanese people, they don't know the western sensibilities, I could easily show how any female in Calibur has a male counterpart design wise.
Also, one slow mo of Sophie's cleavage in one trailer, I'm sure you and I have very different definitions of focus.
Yeah, the way the add was done seemed pretty insulting to people's intelligence. A full body Ivy or Sophitia would have gotten the same point across, but just a close up of her butt and breasts, seems to feel like fans are stereotyped as just being horny kids who care more about that than the actual game itself. People here have shown they care more about the characters they like than their chest sizes, especially considering Talim was number 1 on the polls. Talim being flat chested for one. Using full-body adds just makes the marketing at least subtle enough for people to decide for themselves where their attention goes, as opposed to it being forced in like that. I mean their bodies aren't invisible to us, and the costumes are already fanservicy enough.It's one of the most offensive things about SC5... The series is better than this... As if SC5 needed anything else bringing it down. I don't know why this is all anyone seems to notice about the games anymore but I've noticed it very much since playing SC4 with others. In the old games all we noticed was the gameplay but in the new games all anyone notices is the boobs. Maybe it's the step up in terms of realistic graphics so it's practically unavoidable.
I've nothing against characters having sexuality which can be expressed in their attire, it's just when you start pushing it in my face or worse declaring it a reason I should buy the game rather than well, the freaking gameplay, I draw a line.
I think there was data of him locked in the game’s beta files but I guess they couldn’t finish him due to it being close to release and SCV’s support dying off in less than a year.You never know, they might've intended for him to be included since the game was rushed and all.
My only point was Namco could and probably should do better. Like I said no one would've noticed the ad in the past with no internet but they did and everywhere I brought up or saw SC5 brought up online outside here there was talk of it so I stopped bringing it up. SC4 probably did start the trend that lead to Namco doing it and even if they toned it down in SC5 the ads left a taint. It's not really that I personally take issue with the ads, I was happy to just avoid them, the point is the wider effect they had.SC4 was played by so few people that the only ones left still playing in tournament were there for the gameplay. Unless you live in Japan, I don't know how you could have such an issue with the SCV ad compared to what was in SC4 with the character designs, breast physics and exploding clothing which is in your face every time you play or used a customized character. Ivy's 1P is so bad in that game that people switched to her 2P.
I hope it goes a little better this time.Yeah, the way the add was done seemed pretty insulting to people's intelligence. A full body Ivy or Sophitia would have gotten the same point across, but just a close up of her butt and breasts, seems to feel like fans are stereotyped as just being horny kids who care more about that than the actual game itself. People here have shown they care more about the characters they like than their chest sizes, especially considering Talim was number 1 on the polls. Talim being flat chested for one. Using full-body adds just makes the marketing at least subtle enough for people to decide for themselves where their attention goes, as opposed to it being forced in like that. I mean their bodies aren't invisible to us, and the costumes are already fanservicy enough.
I meant visually.SC4's system was terrible. You'd never break the whole armor, there was no indication of how much it was damaged until it broke and you could never control it. Keeping the upper/mid/lower armor differentiation from SC4, but the requirement to hit specific attacks to break from SC5 makes it a healthy mechanic, allowing it to be properly used and countered.
I sincerely don't get why so much people bring up Voldo on this, I mean it's reasonable, but I don't understand it emotionally I guess.my problems come when characters are OVER-sexualised and that includes Voldo
Tbh until SCV's weird campaign tha made some parts of the game stand out in a wrong way I always seen her looks as part of her character (and even ridiculous, by opinions of many, SCIV costume was more than fine by me).I never really noticed how blatantly over-sexualised Ivy is in SC4
I remember that too. There were Talim's and Zasalamel's files in the game if I recall correctly.I think there was data of him locked in the game’s beta files but I guess they couldn’t finish him due to it being close to release and SCV’s support dying off in less than a year.
That's just one screen, of course with this attack under such angle breasts would be seen, there is nothing wrong with that.At this point of the game, the focus should be on the gameplay instead of Sophie's pillowy cleavage as she floats in the air.