sytus
[14] Master
If you notice Rock and Raphael are next to each other. I only put Rock above Raphael because of the timeline plus if Hwang is in (because he was in SC1) then Yun-Seong is far less likely to be in.
Soul Calibur VI: General discussion
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mugwhump
[09] Warrior
I think that's quite likely, that screen is clearly before a fight
Norik
[14] Master
The most notable observation from those screenshots is the fact that they're in the Money Pit stage in the story mode illustration. That's interesting because we have 11 stage slots and have already seen 11 stages (the 9 from the demo plus Astaroth's lair and Inferno's stage). That can only mean two things: either the Money Pit is just in the illustrations, or there are unlockable stages.
This second possibility has a number of exciting implications. We've already seen other stages in these illustrations, such as the Ling Sheng-Su Temple from SC3. Will this also be an unlockable stage? There is still plenty of space in the stage selection screen, and some staples are still missing (including a raft stage and a japanese stage). We also have themes from the trailers which have not yet been heard in any stages (the remake of Mitsu's SC1 theme that played in the reveal trailer, and Groh's and Xianghua's themes from their respective reveals).
Does this mean that unlockable stages appear on your selection screen as you progress through the game, despite there not being slots for them initially? And more interestingly, does that also apply to characters? As in, will more character slots appear as you unlock more characters? I don't want to get ahead of myself here, but it certainly seems like it could be true for at least the stages!
This second possibility has a number of exciting implications. We've already seen other stages in these illustrations, such as the Ling Sheng-Su Temple from SC3. Will this also be an unlockable stage? There is still plenty of space in the stage selection screen, and some staples are still missing (including a raft stage and a japanese stage). We also have themes from the trailers which have not yet been heard in any stages (the remake of Mitsu's SC1 theme that played in the reveal trailer, and Groh's and Xianghua's themes from their respective reveals).
Does this mean that unlockable stages appear on your selection screen as you progress through the game, despite there not being slots for them initially? And more interestingly, does that also apply to characters? As in, will more character slots appear as you unlock more characters? I don't want to get ahead of myself here, but it certainly seems like it could be true for at least the stages!
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Synalon
[12] Conqueror
I've thought that for a while about the stages. Don't know why everyone was assuming the number of slots was the number of stages in total. We've always had to unlock stages. And 11 stages would be a pretty poor showing...
LisaK
[14] Master
WCCFTech: Will there be stage variations in Soul Calibur VI?
Okubo: There will be lots of stages, some on the E3 show floor and some that have not been announced yet. I think if you ask in terms of ‘Is there a Ring Out or not?’, there are various stages and a lot of calculations have gone into how we do this. [Sorry, this answer was incomplete.]
I don't know if I misinterpreted this interview, but it implied that there are more stages.
Let's be honest the only confirmed stage that combines with Voldo is the Ostrheinsburg Castle: Hall of the Chosen which is probably Nightmare's stage or even Nightmare + Ivy's stage.
Okubo: There will be lots of stages, some on the E3 show floor and some that have not been announced yet. I think if you ask in terms of ‘Is there a Ring Out or not?’, there are various stages and a lot of calculations have gone into how we do this. [Sorry, this answer was incomplete.]
I don't know if I misinterpreted this interview, but it implied that there are more stages.
Let's be honest the only confirmed stage that combines with Voldo is the Ostrheinsburg Castle: Hall of the Chosen which is probably Nightmare's stage or even Nightmare + Ivy's stage.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
But when we have unlocked stages, there were still blank slots to represent them from the get-go. Only SoulBlade and SoulCalibur the first did this with the character screen unlocking slots that weren't there before. SoulCalibur II and beyond, the slots are always there, they're just filled in when things are unlocked. That would be where the idea springs from that that would be the count, I'd say.
That this is true, I wonder if that adds anything to the idea that Voldo may actually be in the story timeline slot between Grøh and Ivy, and if that's the case, then that opens up the speculative slot underneath Yoshimitsu, though, that also being said, I still can't really see any other spot on the roster except from the slot across from Yoshimitsu that would make sense for Voldo, So maybe jumping to conclusions, it's just odd that the story mode screenshot they show us has him going against Ivy, of all people.
My picks are still the same, going left to right, top to bottom, filling in slots:
Hwang, Lizardman, Astaroth, (Voldo), (Talim), Cervantes, Seong Mi-na, Cassandra, Raphael, Tira.
I believe the other new character, Grøh's dad, will be a boss-only character and not unlockable for play, perhaps too powerful. Maybe balanced and added as DLC later, it's possible, but he could also be where I have Raphael, and Raphael could be DLC instead, alternatively Cassandra could be the DLC, move Raphael one to the left, and then put Grøh's dad there. The other three DLC would be Setsuka, Hilde, and 2B.
The Turbanator
[11] Champion
My bet on the last 8 are:
-Aeon
-Cervantes
-Astaroth
-Tira
-Mi-Na
-Hwang/Yun
-Raphael
-Newcomer
I know, I know, very ballsy bets for the most part.
-Aeon
-Cervantes
-Astaroth
-Tira
-Mi-Na
-Hwang/Yun
-Raphael
-Newcomer
I know, I know, very ballsy bets for the most part.
Project Bokuho
[14] Master
Pretty much my list as well.
Klimat
[13] Hero
So here is my take on the roster:
I've added Talim to the far left side of the screen close to the good guys and Voldo to the right side. Inferno is in the center as an unlockable mimic around which the story revolves (we know he's in the game thanks to the Story Trailer). CaS is opposed to the random button as it usually is.
Astaroth, Cervantes and Lizardman have all appeared in story mode art, so they are all safe bets, Astaroth has even been leaked by Vergeben at one point. Another character leaked by Vergeben is Tira. All of those are villains, so they go to the right side of the screen. Astaroth is opposed to Maxi horizontally, Voldo is opposed to Yoshimitsu horizontally, Cervantes is opposed to Ivy vertically. Not sure about Lizardman and Tira, you can switch those if you want.
If I'm not mistaken, it has been officially confirmed Groh won't the only new character in the game, so I put the second new character (Groh's dad?) in the center. There is no free space left on the right side with villains and anti-heroes, but I don't want to put Groh's dad too far away from his son, so the center is the bast place to put him.
Which leaves us with only two slots on the left good guys side left empty. Most likely candidates are Seong Mi-na, Hwang, Yun-seong, Cassandra, Setsuka and Raphael.
Now Raphael is more of an anti-hero/villain type, while Setsuka was not very active during SC1-2 time, yet both are very unique, iconic and popular, so I delegate both to DLC along with a promised second guest. And that's all for season one DLC.
That leaves us with Seong Mi-na, Hwang, Yun-seong and Cassandra claiming two empty slots. I think getting both Hwang and Yun-seong is a waste of space, so only one can appear, which in my opinion should be Hwang, that leaves us with Seong Mi-na, Hwang and Cassandra battling out for two remaining slots. Well, Seong Mi-na and Hwang go together in the story also both are SC1 veterans unlike Cassandra, so they win.
I'm afraid Cassandra's only chance to get in SC6 is in the potential second season pass or as a CaS clone of her sister...
I've added Talim to the far left side of the screen close to the good guys and Voldo to the right side. Inferno is in the center as an unlockable mimic around which the story revolves (we know he's in the game thanks to the Story Trailer). CaS is opposed to the random button as it usually is.
Astaroth, Cervantes and Lizardman have all appeared in story mode art, so they are all safe bets, Astaroth has even been leaked by Vergeben at one point. Another character leaked by Vergeben is Tira. All of those are villains, so they go to the right side of the screen. Astaroth is opposed to Maxi horizontally, Voldo is opposed to Yoshimitsu horizontally, Cervantes is opposed to Ivy vertically. Not sure about Lizardman and Tira, you can switch those if you want.
If I'm not mistaken, it has been officially confirmed Groh won't the only new character in the game, so I put the second new character (Groh's dad?) in the center. There is no free space left on the right side with villains and anti-heroes, but I don't want to put Groh's dad too far away from his son, so the center is the bast place to put him.
Which leaves us with only two slots on the left good guys side left empty. Most likely candidates are Seong Mi-na, Hwang, Yun-seong, Cassandra, Setsuka and Raphael.
Now Raphael is more of an anti-hero/villain type, while Setsuka was not very active during SC1-2 time, yet both are very unique, iconic and popular, so I delegate both to DLC along with a promised second guest. And that's all for season one DLC.
That leaves us with Seong Mi-na, Hwang, Yun-seong and Cassandra claiming two empty slots. I think getting both Hwang and Yun-seong is a waste of space, so only one can appear, which in my opinion should be Hwang, that leaves us with Seong Mi-na, Hwang and Cassandra battling out for two remaining slots. Well, Seong Mi-na and Hwang go together in the story also both are SC1 veterans unlike Cassandra, so they win.
I'm afraid Cassandra's only chance to get in SC6 is in the potential second season pass or as a CaS clone of her sister...
Niwona
Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em
I hope if we get a Money Pit stage that it has treasures that can be crashed into, sort of like the fruits in T7's SOUQ.
sytus
[14] Master
So I.....erm came across a rather amusing fanart of Voldo on Deviantart plus an absolute badass one.
Zael
Thespian Extraordinaire
This list is perfect for me.
Norik
[14] Master
Seems perfectly plausible. The only point of contention would be the lack of Cassandra, who has a pretty high chance of making it in given the clues we have.
It seems like everyone's predictions are converging, with four characters pretty much in lock (Astaroth, Lizardman, Cervantes, and Tira) and four slots taken by the usual wildcards (Mina, Cassandra, Hwang, Raphael, Setsuka, and Grøh's Dad). This seems like a good estimation to me. It's a shame there can't be an extra two spots, one or two awesome characters won't make the cut no matter what. Kinda sucks they're going for a guest DLC character instead of all veterans, but I understand why.
AMillionHP
[13] Hero
Why exactly are most people convinced Tira will make it? She was introduced in SC3 no? Isnt this a bit before her time? I definitely wouldn't place her chances (or Setuka's for that matter) higher than anyone else's that predates SC3.
She might make more sense as DLC or CAS only. In other words, not included with storymode.
She might make more sense as DLC or CAS only. In other words, not included with storymode.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
Because of this, she has a known but untold in-game story, an origin story, that could definitely be implemented:
Spanky
[13] Hero
I just occurred to me that on Voldo's left knee, there is a metal skull wearing the same gimpy straps and spikes over his eyes and mouth that Voldo has. That is hands-down my favorite design detail ever. <3
The Turbanator
[11] Champion
That's not at all why, it's because she's the most popular character after SCII.Because of this, she has a known but untold in-game story, an origin story, that could definitely be implemented:
Also Zasalamel is in and he's from SCIII, so there's a slight precedent for post-SCII characters to be in.
sytus
[14] Master
SC2, SC3, and SC4 timeline is the same year. Considering Talim is in and her age makes the events of SC6 cover that year it is very possible for her to be in it. It also helps the fact she's insanely popular and has a very unique weapon.
GhostTear
[13] Hero
Zas was introduced in SC3 along with Tira.
She is very unique character wise and fights with an unorthodox weapon (ring blade). Plays into the diverse roster the soul cal team is going for.
Her jolly/gloomy leaves a lot of room for creativity and design. (Hoping her Soul Charge is Sadist)
Shining Decopon won Evo 2012 with her and made all Tira mains proud.
Those are my reasons anyway.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
You've neglected one DLC character, since there's four, not three, unless you're on the "Inferno is the bonus character" train of thought. There is also the possibility that the two small circles, one on either side of the bottom row, one of those could be CaS, freeing another slot.
But I definitely believe Lizardman goes in the top right corner, because that puts the Schwarzstrom (Nightmare, Astaroth, Ivy, Lizardman) all together in a square. Tira's not in the main group yet for this timeline, as she's still a Bird of Passage. She'll likely discover Soul Edge through the course of the story, however. So I agree that Tira will be on the bottom row where you've placed her. Voldo opposite Yoshimitsu makes sense, but Seong Mi-na opposite Cervantes, not so much. I feel like Talim goes across from Cervantes, and Hwang goes across from Lizardman. The bottom row left three was stated by either Hayate or Vergeben (maybe both) to be the ones who aren't playable in the main story. So Seong Mi-na, Cassandra, Raphael, Grøh's dad, etc., those are the ones who'd take up bottom row space to the left of Tira.
I mean, that is also why, but that she does have a story relevant factor, so it supports her case. Setsuka doesn't have this, which is why she's being relegated to DLC, as she can be added for her style without having any bearing on the main roster since she's not involved with the story. Ditto for Hilde. Zasalamel had existed long before SoulCalibur III as an immortal, so he has an in for the story as well. I know that they can do whatever they want with the story, but all evidence so far points that they will actually only be including events that don't contradict the original timeline, with one of the main goals of this story seeming to be to show things that were only in text format before.