Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

Pac said:
I keep on seeing people saying Rock is gonna be in this game. Imma be honest, I never would think, in like..a million years, Rock would make it. I mean, I don't hate the guy but he's GOT to be one of the most UNPOPULAR characters in the entire series.
If these people are siting the games timeline as the reason than that's not good enough...and if that's the case than what the hell is Zas doin here?


Im still waitin on Cass, my girl was at least in Verg's leaked roster..I aint seen shit about Rock...
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I don't think anyone is really seriously considering Rock is going to make it, except for maybe @Windstar -- even if you're subscribing to his theory that there's only 5 characters left, they would most likely be Astaroth, Cervantes, Hwang*, Lizardman, and Tira, using the story timeline as a predictor. It's not just the events themselves and the timeline, but there is also a theme of groupings in the list all the same, as such:

Mitsurugi (rival)
Taki (rival)
Kilik (the heroes)
Maxi (the heroes)
Xianghua (the heroes)
Grøh (the rival of Kilik/the heroes)
Hwang (*if there's anyone questionable at all, it would be this one - Rock MIGHT go here, but severe doubt - the other option is Grøh's dad, but seems unlikely if he's final boss, I personally vote Hwang because he could be the "rival" of the heroes in that he subbed Xianghua for Korean releases)
Ivy (daughter, also Schwarzstrom)
Cervantes (father, while not Schwarzstrom, original wielder of Soul Edge, could say he's the founder)
Lizardman (Schwarzstrom) (people who argue that Seong Mi-na would go here, it goes against the groupings and makes no sense)
Astaroth (Schwarzstrom)
Nightmare (mortal enemy, also Schwarzstrom)
Siegfried (mortal enemy)
Sophitia (future enemies)
Tira (future enemies)
Yoshimitsu (sword stolen)
Voldo (steals sword)
Talim (seeks balance)
Zasalamel (seeks balance)
Geralt (the guest)

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Pac said:
I keep on seeing people saying Rock is gonna be in this game. Imma be honest, I never would think, in like..a million years, Rock would make it. I mean, I don't hate the guy but he's GOT to be one of the most UNPOPULAR characters in the entire series.
If these people are siting the games timeline as the reason than that's not good enough...and if that's the case than what the hell is Zas doin here?


Im still waitin on Cass, my girl was at least in Verg's leaked roster..I aint seen shit about Rock...
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The timeline of this game will range from SE to SC2, with most events being from SC1. Since SC2 happens in the same year as SC3 and SC4, any characters from those games can appear, which explains Zasalamel and, specially, Talim. Rock lacks popularity, story relevance and he wasn't even good in tournaments either, nothing really brings attention to him. At best he'll be a story mode NPC like Rothion, assuming that Namco even remembers his sorry existance.

Master_Thespian said:
I definitely would rather have Rock than Cassandra.
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Good thing the large majority disagrees with you.
 
I was ABOUT TO ask what exactly would Rock, as a character, bring to the table that Astaroth doesn't bring allready, but then it kind of hit me that Soul Calibur would otherwise lack a dedicated grappler character.

Mind, I am definitely not saying I want Rock to be in, quite the oposite, I hate him and consider him borderline boring, but it's still a point to be considered.
 
DanteSC3 said:
I don't think anyone is really seriously considering Rock is going to make it, except for maybe @Windstar -- even if you're subscribing to his theory that there's only 5 characters left, they would most likely be Astaroth, Cervantes, Hwang*, Lizardman, and Tira, using the story timeline as a predictor. It's not just the events themselves and the timeline, but there is also a theme of groupings in the list all the same, as such:

Mitsurugi (rival)
Taki (rival)
Kilik (the heroes)
Maxi (the heroes)
Xianghua (the heroes)
Grøh (the rival of Kilik/the heroes)
Hwang (*if there's anyone questionable at all, it would be this one - Rock MIGHT go here, but severe doubt - the other option is Grøh's dad, but seems unlikely if he's final boss, I personally vote Hwang because he could be the "rival" of the heroes in that he subbed Xianghua for Korean releases)
Ivy (daughter, also Schwarzstrom)
Cervantes (father, while not Schwarzstrom, original wielder of Soul Edge, could say he's the founder)
Lizardman (Schwarzstrom) (people who argue that Seong Mi-na would go here, it goes against the groupings and makes no sense)
Astaroth (Schwarzstrom)
Nightmare (mortal enemy, also Schwarzstrom)
Siegfried (mortal enemy)
Sophitia (future enemies)
Tira (future enemies)
Yoshimitsu (sword stolen)
Voldo (steals sword)
Talim (seeks balance)
Zasalamel (seeks balance)
Geralt (the guest)

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I also tried a lot to understand that screen and groups. But why Mitsurugi+Taki ; Kilik+Maxi+Xianghua ; Nightmare+Siefried groups are in correct alphabetical order but not the other?

In my latest video about this I put Rock in my main theory in the first blurred name, because the name fits better. But maybe it's neither Hwang or Rock but a new char connected to Gr0h.

Both Cervantes/Lizardman and Yun-Seong/Seong Mi-Na theory have their issues.
- Ivy and Cervantes aren't in the correct alphabetical order. Neither Lizardman & Astaroth.
- Yun-Seong and Seong-Mi-Na also aren't in the correct alphabetical order.

Below Sophitia, the name of Talim fits better and I think they might prefer having a Talim a little bit too young and interracting with Sophitia (maybe to heal her body) than Tira.
Tira fits better with the lenght of her name and the 3 dots which seems to appear alone in SC2 or SC3 timeline.

Also it's in Yoshimitsu and Voldo groupe, alphabetical order don't match either.

Maybe the characters names in a group aren't in alphabetical order, even if it seems the case for :
- Mitsu/Taki
- Kilik/Maxi/Xianghua
- Nightmare/Siegfried

Or maybe we put the wrong names.
 
TekkenLover said:

I finished the video, six months later.... -_-

Note that when I began this video, nightmare was revealed to have siegfried's face under the armor so we thought sieg was cut. I was going to put a note at the end of the video lamenting Sieg being cut but Its a good thing I waited.
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My man - you're back! Nice one... which characters are left to do now?

Those exclusive moves look almost similar to other moves they both have. There isn't really much in it at all.

Incidentally, when the game went from arcade to DC, both characters gained these new moves:

--New Moves--
Spin Quick Double Grounder (A+K,A,d+A+K,A) / (8WR,{d_u}+K,A,d+A+K,A)
H,L,L / 21,22,35
Description: Siegfried kicks, fakes a high slash, then does two low
spinning slashes.
Comments: Only possible when preceded by a Spin Kick; the normal Double
Grounder can't be faked. The d+A+K must be executed after the animation
for the second hit begins. The input has been modified from the noted
execution in SysTech.

Earth Trample (QCF+[K] or While Opponent is Down,d+[K]) / (FC,d/f,f+[K])
UL / 26
Description: Siegfried holds his foot high, then stomps.
Comments: When held for the full duration, the first hit of Stomping now
becomes unblockable and turns into Earth Trample. Siegfried's foot will
also now Guard Impact low attacks right before he stomps. New crouching
input. The crouching input can be done in the arcade version as well.

Axe Kick Winder (During 8-Way Run, {Any Direction except b_f}+A+K)
L / 22
Description: Siegfried does a low spinning sweep.
Comments: Will knock down on counterhit, recovers crouching.

--New Moves--
Spin Slash Quick Double Grounder (A+K,A,d+A+K,A) / (8WR,{d_u}+K,A,d+A+K,A)
H,L,L / 21,22,35
Description: Nightmare kicks, fakes a high slash, then does two low
spinning slashes.
Comments: Only possible when preceded by a Spin Kick; the normal Double
Grounder can't be faked. The d+A+K must be executed after the animation
for the second hit begins. The input has been modified from the noted
execution in SysTech.

Earth Trample (QCF+[K] or While Opponent is Down,d+[K]) / (FC,d/f,f+[K])
UL / 26
Description: Nightmare holds his foot high, then stomps.
Comments: When held for the full duration, the first hit of Stomping now
becomes unblockable and turns into Earth Trample. Nightmare's foot will
also now Guard Impact low attacks right before he stomps. New crouching
input. The crouching input can be done in the arcade version as well.

Axe Kick Winder (8WR,{Any Direction except b_f}+A+K)
L / 22
Description: Nightmare does a low spinning sweep.
Comments: Will knock down on counterhit, recovers crouching.
 
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Cadaveri said:
Wonder If they are going to have some sort of sliders for the facial(face details) part in CaS this time around, I really wish we get more than 9 generic faces to choose from this time around :(
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After T7 regressing again and SCVI already showing reused stuff from SCV, i wouldn't get my hopes up for any advanced creation options.
 
I wish Hayate's videos had more sharper edits... I came away not really knowing what Maxi's new moves are or what they look like... same with the Siegfried video... it just looks like we are watching a rolling video without actually emphasising the moves.

However, I did spot something interesting with Zas in this still.... do you guys notice it as well...?
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The Turbanator said:
After T7 regressing again and SCVI already showing reused stuff from SCV, i wouldn't get my hopes up for any advanced creation options.
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Yeah, because the game already showed off every single feature, and we can judge it will all be the same based on a small ammount of recycled stuff. Nice logic +1.
 
Pac said:
I keep on seeing people saying Rock is gonna be in this game. Imma be honest, I never would think, in like..a million years, Rock would make it. I mean, I don't hate the guy but he's GOT to be one of the most UNPOPULAR characters in the entire series.
If these people are siting the games timeline as the reason than that's not good enough...and if that's the case than what the hell is Zas doin here?


Im still waitin on Cass, my girl was at least in Verg's leaked roster..I aint seen shit about Rock...
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If they put in Cassandra I demand to have Rock in the roster.
 
Zenit said:
If they put in Cassandra I demand to have Rock in the roster.
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If they put Cassandra in, and Lizardman with a sword and shield as well, with all three of them having dinky little swords and shields, I'm going to effing cry. That's three slots used up with the exact same weapons, and entirely stifles CaS character creation options for me and others like me. As boring as Rock is, at least he brings a new weapon to the table.

MAYBE if one of the shields and swords were larger.
 
Macaulyn said:
You're talking about a popular character like Cassandra, Rock is not even close to comparable.
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I don't care much for popularity. I like chars that nobody likes. I'm talking about the usefulness of a character. As I said many times, Cassandra is just another trivial char with sword and shield. I think she's useless. So If they have to put an useless char then I want the "useless" Rock with his grabbing gameplay that I love so much.
 
Mantis2K said:
I wish Hayate's videos had more sharper edits... I came away not really knowing what Maxi's new moves are or what they look like... same with the Siegfried video... it just looks like we are watching a rolling video without actually emphasising the moves.

However, I did spot something interesting with Zas in this still.... do you guys notice it as well...?
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Do you have any idea how I can improve this ? I tried to illustrate the moves by showing them in slowmotion.

The only problem is that I can't take the time explaining the 5 Stance in that one. It will be for a later one.

Maybe I have to describe more and try go synchronize better the voice and the moves. I will work on that, thanks for the feedback.
 
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