1.03 Tier List Discussion (aka Argument)

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Shit just got serious with the KDZ smackdown.

It's funny because I know how to use her too, I just can't JF umbrella for shit without an xbox pad sadly enough. Her motions just all around feel better on that piece of shit dpad... but it's not like I'm playing anyone else in a tournament ever.
 
Hot Shit! Ouch! The stumbling road ur going down now is only going to be enhanced, as it seems the last god knows how many tourneys NY has done rampaged through NJ. The last one to represent at a Koga is me. I'll be up next just to enhance our dominance and compliment the fact that me, Ramon, and Maxx have been eliminating u at like 5 tourneys in a row now. If it aint me its Ramon, if it aint him its Maxx. The glory days of ur tourney wins was like 5 months ago and its gonna continue to stay that way! NY
 
Also its Post Evo Mr. 2nd and Post Nats Mr 3rd (me). Fuck them old ass less valuable tournaments. Lets give the people a show in the spirit of the best region in SCIV the tri-state and the beast coast and rematch tha first round challenge u beat me in so long ago to show the people how time has changed and that dwelling in Pre Evo/Nats means nothing. Muahaha NY Bitches!

Edit: That old as season is done u represented. The new season is here its time to move over.

First Round Challenge Rematch at GU!
 
No.
I'm not putting you on my level, because you're simply not there.

Win another tournament first. Then I'll listen to what you have to say. Until then, keep nut-riding Ramon and Dreamkiller's achievements. They're the one's who've won more than one tournament apiece, and have won a tournament in the last 10 months, not you.

In the last 5 tournaments, I've won a major, lost in 5th and 3rd (remembering to KO you out of one of them), 5th cause of french (still above you and Ramon), and 2nd at THE most important SC4 major to date, beating the rest of the US and losing only to 1 french player. Kayane and Saitoh were in my pool, and sadly they were dismissed.

I'm the motherfucking Captain America. I am the East Coast Elite.
You're some dude trying to be on my level by getting on my nerves.
The only tournaments you've ever gotten top 2 at are always less than 18 people.
:p

No.
Win something. Do something. Then I'll acknowledge you as an actually obstacle to be recognized.
Right now you're just some pothole I'll make sure I don't trip over on my way to winning more tournaments.

....But in the end, your type has to learn the hard way. I accept that First Round Challenge at GU.
A free bye to the second round is too tempting for me to pass up.

!!! I would love to see a major tournament in France !!!
 
id like to see a setsuka that can use he back wave dash as a backdash as good as algols i know it could be done. That along with useing her spacing tools correctally would make her god. I mean she has like no bad matchups what could stand in her way.
 
Belial youre coming to France on 6th September?? Damn it, i got an exam on the 9th. You got a link? isnt the London tourney at the same time??

If its in Paris maybe i could attend...i need some infos!!
 
Thanks, i just checked the SBO, when i read PS3 i stopped searching for flights....gonna try to come to Paris if i find a cheap way, and yeah Tsubasa just won a mojor in Holland btw, i know he is strong :P
 
Belial said:
there will be a major tournament in France on 6th september
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Not really a major, the real major will probably be Cannes 2K10 =)
This is "only" a ranking, but nonethelesss all the top french players are gonna be there, as usual. + some top belgium players and legends from the south of France, like Maxou ! :p
 
Lets put KDZ into perspective since ur Mr. Exaggeration at its finest that also bases alot of things from his own imaginary folktales.

KDZaster said:
I've won over 10-20 tournaments since the start of SC4.
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KDZ: Great Season record.

Nationals - 13th
Evo 2009 - 2nd
Koga (July) - 5th
Bone (May) - 3rd
Koga (May) - 5th
WCG (April) - 1st
Koga (April) - 5th
Koga (March) - 1st
GVN (Feb) - 2nd
Koga Regional (January) - 1st
NEC9 (December) - 9th
Bone (November) - 1st
Koga (November) - 1st
Koga (October) - 1st
Koga (September) - 13th

Ratio: 1st (6) 2nd (2) 3rd (1) 5th (3) 9th (1) 13th (1)

I don't see over 10-20 tournaments won. Not even close to it and Jaxel has been up ur ass in tracking ur tournaments on this site.

KDZaster said:
I've put you out of more tournaments than I care to remember.
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Hmmm really cause from what I recall perfectly.

Something-Unique: Good Season record (but urs is better and mine still aint nothin to laugh at since it landed me in the top 16 invites not includings EVO, Nats, NVGA)

NVGA Championships (July 2009) - 4th
Nationals (July 2009) - 3rd
Koga (July 2009) - 13th
Bone (May 2009) - 9th
Koga (May 2009) - 4th
Chicago (May 2009) - 2nd
Chicago Regional (May 2009) - 2nd
WCG (April 2009) - 4th
Koga (April 2009) - 4th
Koga (March 2009) - 2nd
NEC9 (December 2008) - 9th
Koga (November 2008) - 4th
NY-Play-N-Trade (November 2008) - 1st

1st (1) 2nd (3) 3rd (1) 4th (5) 9th (2) 13th (1)

I beat in the first tournament I went to twice placing u in loosers and taking u out in loosers. That was also the first time ur sour ass challenged me to two MM's to try and make up for it (which i'm gonna get into even more later; u'll see why). Then u beat me in the following Koga in the loosers once and denied a MM being my first time challenging u. Then we had the first round challenge at NEC9 which u beat me with the suprise Hilde and ironically still tied 9th with u at the same huge tournament.

This sparked the Hilde training after witnessing that shit first hand prompting me to use her predominantly for the set of my follow up tournaments. That tournament u beat me in the GF's with me coming from loosers. Then comes Koga (April) when both me and Ramon beat ur ass and eliminated u me taking u out in loosers. Then came Bone (May) which u beat me in loosers.

So again to quell ur exaggeration in KDZ world me vs. u directly in tournaments is 3-4 for u. More times than u can remember huh. Amazing it is the world that KDZ lives in.

KDZaster said:
Also, Setsuka is a bit too complex for you. You should stick to pressing B+K and wsB with Kilik :p
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This is minor but I thought it was funny. Its funny because this is coming from a guy who needs three of the same buttons mapped to execute Cass's JF 4BB:A while more than 95% of the entire SCIV userbase can't execute Asura JF or iFotD into Asura JF as remotely close to consistent as I can. Once again the world that KDZ lives in is funny and only he seems to understand.

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Next up is the MM's 4-1 in my favor in regards to direct competition. Its also worth noting that the one MM u won had restrictions on me using Hilde only. Also I made a comment above in relation to MM's because 4 out of the 5 u challenged me to this match and not once did I turn u down. To top that off u only challenged me to these MM's everytime I beat u in a tourney and whenever I challenged u u turned me down. I wonder why!
Were u trying to prove something whenever u lost.

I was never gonna let this out and there are a number of people that actually know about this but u got ur ass beat so bad in one of our MM's that u refused to let the recorder put the video online after talking shit in JavaChat with Ceirnian and them not to far back actually. Sorry for airing u out but what kind of competitor talks shit gets his ass handed to him on film and refuses to let the vids be posted online. Don't try to make fibs up for it either as a number of people already know about it.

I'll disregard the rest of the stuff as thats what u do make funny shit talking comments like the pothole one but in reality thats not the case as proven above.

Also on the issue of Kayane u mean the same badass X that beat u in Nationals even though u seem to be bragging about out placing her in Evo. That seems hypocrytical to me and the video is in the Game Video Distribution thread to prove it. Also wait u were at Evo and Nats and I believe u placed 2nd & wait 13th. I see u forgot that one didn't u. Oh wait here it is........... Amazing how that popped up here!

Also Evo vs. Nats is subjective which one was more competitive for a number of reasons that I won't get into here so ur opinion is invalid.

Finally and most importantly u had a good season but u name one competitive sport or game in which a season record means anything to a championship or championships (Evo, Nats, NVGA). How many basketball, football, etc. teams have we seen with a great record but fail in the Finals/Superbowl. Do u think just because Jaxel came up with a one man flawed ranking system that changes. Are u f'ing kidding me. Shit even in SCI-SCIII the best was a result of Evo and Nats or one or the other. Stop trying to brake the rules with this bias as ranking system that favors u out the ass.

Ex. Thugish_Pond (Evo - 3rd, Nats - 1st, NVGA - 3rd) why the hell isn't he at the top #1 which nobody can argue or Malek (Evo - 1st, Nats 5th) above u in the two biggest majors the championships of this game. Could it be that this ranking system is flawed (again one man's opinion with bias towards a member from his own NJ area) what a coincidence.

Once again Championships destroy season and its always been like that even in SCI-SCIII. U and Jaxels flawed ranking system don't change that. So based on that Something-Unique (Nats - 3rd, NVGA -4th) ur record means nothing to me outside of ur Evo placing. Get ur shit straight and be ready to lose that First Round at GU. Not to mention that my Nats bracket was 5 out of the top 8 at Evo.

Just telling it like it is since ur bold enough to make shit up and live in ur own world.
 
If your opponnents play against Setsuka the same way they play against your kilik Something-Unique (never step), you should do well with her if you can master her A+K B umbrella in combo and 1AAA. 1BB, BT B+K B and 214~3BB are JF in name only.
Well you can do well with her, but only if you can zone correctly with her and not charge like an idiot with her.
 
Maxou said:
If your opponnents play against Setsuka the same way they play against your kilik Something-Unique (never step), you should do well with her if you can master her A+K B umbrella in combo and 1AAA. 1BB, BT B+K B and 214~3BB are JF in name only.
Well you can do well with her, but only if you can zone correctly with her and not charge like an idiot with her.
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People do step my Kilik alot. I don't think the huge player base that I have played is that dumb not to step such a linear character. If u look at a number of my vids u'll always see the same Asura/iFotD/A+B theme but everything else I use is subject to which character I am playing. Like me vs. Kayane vid is a good example because i'm giving her nothing to step but WsB and I don't play like that generally with lots of 4B+K. She bounces around way to fast to do much which is why u see me spacing (backing up according to the method she uses to step). It aligns my WsB almost perfectly. Thats why its hard to understand my Kilik because the extra stuff is different per character since I know my matchup base. I'm also a turtle so i'm not ever really offensive becuase its Kilik, he's good at that so generally I have more room to step.


Give me some tips. As much as u can it would be most appreciated as I am seriously gonna pick her up.
 
KDZ - Who are you kidding!? You know EC RAPES YOU FREEEEEEEEE NIGGA!!! You only beat those other people cause u aint run into nobody from EC at Evo, and u got scraped at Nats (Thank God true talent got Top 8 at Nats, cause seeing u up there again just woulda made me vomit.) Niggas didn't know what a 1A was, so u jus happened to win. Shit don't fly over here. Aint no mo EC Elite, so you can start getting off ur Fox Pedestal KTHANX!!!

PS - Dont pick Setsuka, cause ur just gonna keep scooping like you always do. U know ur gonna stick with ur dumbass win button, so why even bother trying to make urself look skilled by picking a character that actually requires a bit more brain?

PPS - Get hype!!!! EC JUS HI-JACKED THE TIER THREAD!!!
 
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