Hilde: Q&A/General Discussion Thread

Slade said:
Can be blocked with 665G generally. Best to save it for whiff punishment or combos unless you're really desperate and think 665G might randomly not work.
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It's pretty consistent, though. I don't use it as a step killer much, but if you're just standing there far away from them and they're dancing back and forth constantly, just go to town. That situation happens more than you would think.
 
TheAppleBoom said:
It's pretty consistent, though. I don't use it as a step killer much, but if you're just standing there far away from them and they're dancing back and forth constantly, just go to town. That situation happens more than you would think.
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http://8wayrun.com/threads/pyrrha-q-a-general-discussionthread.8745/page-24#post-621310
It's not 100% consistent but it works at any amount of disadvantage that doesn't get outright punished by CE. It's easy to do as well, some people just haven't heard of it yet.
 
About ce and 665g, at max max max range, most characters cannot punish hildes ce. So at full screen YOLO ce is still the most optimal. I also like to do it when i feel some one is being super aggressive. Its kind of like a random uppercut in 2d fighters.
 
was messing around in arcade mode for a while and i fought an AI hilde. the interesting thing is that it C2B'd me ass soon as the announcer said "fight!". i haven't actually tested it yet, but are you even able to start a charge before the round starts?!
 
So hello to you Hilde players and I have a few questions about Hilde cause I've been thinking about picking her up for a good while now and don't see alot of her.

1. What's a good starting point on how to pick her up and what common button configs do people use for her?

2. What's her pro's and cons for the character?

3. What is the main thing you wanna focus on as Hilde in matches?

Thanks alot for your time.
 
Gamegenie222 said:
1. What's a good starting point on how to pick her up and what common button configs do people use for her?

2. What's her pro's and cons for the character?

3. What is the main thing you wanna focus on as Hilde in matches?
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1. i use an extra G on my LT so C2B combos are easier and that's the only thing that's different on my control set-up. as for where to start, i'd probably say just try getting C2B G C3A off consistently before you move on to anything more technical.

2. pro's: she's hawt, got the longest non-full screen CE, i personally think she's one of the most fun characters to play as, her RO game is pretty sweet with multiple throws that RO among other moves.

con's: everything she uses has the same/similar JG timing so stuff like random C3A and 3B BE are terra-bad, other than 1K and 2K she doesn't have very many useful lows.

3. i try to focus on my charges, ideally C2A and C1A. my hilde is a bit unconventional since im always in the opponent's face, but knowing how and when to zone them is pretty important.
 
Gamegenie222 said:
So hello to you Hilde players and I have a few questions about Hilde cause I've been thinking about picking her up for a good while now and don't see alot of her.

1. What's a good starting point on how to pick her up and what common button configs do people use for her?

2. What's her pro's and cons for the character?

3. What is the main thing you wanna focus on as Hilde in matches?

Thanks alot for your time.
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3.RUSH THAT SHIT DOWN
 
Gamegenie222 said:
Sounds fun but can she play a good defensive game as well and how well can she be played defensively? I'm asking this cause I'm soo used of playing defense cause I play Raph ans one of my mains so that's why.
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she can be pretty defensive, but her block punishment options are a bit limited so i'd focus on whiff punishing with 22B and the like. when i do go on the defensive 44Bis one of my best friends lol. my personal preference is to blitz 'em so i don't have to worry about punishing them at all.
 
So since I decided to start playing Elysium (Thus forcing me to learn the females,) my main question right now, is what are the timings with the Charge moves?
I get the general idea that it will eventually be muscle memory, but I just thought I would ask, since it is harmless.
 
Gamegenie222 said:
Sounds fun but can she play a good defensive game as well and how well can she be played defensively? I'm asking this cause I'm soo used of playing defense cause I play Raph ans one of my mains so that's why.
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We are entering a zone of opinions. So everything i will say right now is IMO, lol.

IMO hilde is a high octane,high movement, speed based character. If you are going play hilde at a high level you have to master wavedashing with her on both sides. Once you can do that you can start to create her optimal style. Her optimal style is high movement whiff punishing, while also rushing 50 50. Meaning you move around alot just like you where raph. But your main focus should be getting inside and making your opponent guess between c1a/c2a,grab,2k,66k,grab BE into ce and last but not least 22b. If you master the wavedash the whiffs will come to you with open arms.Best far range whiff punisher is c3b. If your opponent gets defensive then rush that shit down. Really she kinda has the best of both worlds but takes alot of input skill. I would say her one weakness is overall attack speed. But the speed plus range of her moves make them still effective even though they arent crazy fast.

There are some specific matchups where you should play more defensive and wait for whiffs. Which is usually just character who totally own her inside(apat,viola,pyrrha ect ect)
 
i agree 100%! i haven't gotten wave-dashing down pat yet, i usually just forget about it in the heat of battle.i really need to mentally force myself to do it to work it into my playstyle until it becomes second nature.
 
CappuccinoJak said:
she can be pretty defensive, but her block punishment options are a bit limited so i'd focus on whiff punishing with 22B and the like. when i do go on the defensive 44Bis one of my best friends lol. my personal preference is to blitz 'em so i don't have to worry about punishing them at all.
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m216xlegendx said:
We are entering a zone of opinions. So everything i will say right now is IMO, lol.

IMO hilde is a high octane,high movement, speed based character. If you are going play hilde at a high level you have to master wavedashing with her on both sides. Once you can do that you can start to create her optimal style. Her optimal style is high movement whiff punishing, while also rushing 50 50. Meaning you move around alot just like you where raph. But your main focus should be getting inside and making your opponent guess between c1a/c2a,grab,2k,66k,grab BE into ce and last but not least 22b. If you master the wavedash the whiffs will come to you with open arms.Best far range whiff punisher is c3b. If your opponent gets defensive then rush that shit down. Really she kinda has the best of both worlds but takes alot of input skill. I would say her one weakness is overall attack speed. But the speed plus range of her moves make them still effective even though they arent crazy fast.

There are some specific matchups where you should play more defensive and wait for whiffs. Which is usually just character who totally own her inside(apat,viola,pyrrha ect ect)
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Thanks for the info guys. I will be giving her the college try after this local tourney I got to practice for next week.

EDIT: What about her wall combos and her loop, Is her loop recommended and how hard is it to learn?
 
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Gamegenie222 said:
EDIT: What about her wall combos and her loop, Is her loop recommended and how hard is it to learn?
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online i don't really, if ever, use the C2B G C2B loop because it's online and it's just too risky to miss it altogether. however i do use C2B G 3B BE loop since it's much easier and not as character-specific as the other one.

for wall combos it just kinda involves a wall splat, C1A, and your choice of what to do with a free C2B. i think there was a post somewhere around here about it, but it might be in the combo discussion iirc (i quote it once i find it).
 
So after seeing some Hilde videos being posted here on 8wr recently I've come to decide I wanna learn how to use this sexy red head. What do I need to focus on? And what's the best set-up (controller) I can have using Xbox360/Ps3 controller?
 
Robin said:
So after seeing some Hilde videos being posted here on 8wr recently I've come to decide I wanna learn how to use this sexy red head. What do I need to focus on? And what's the best set-up (controller) I can have using Xbox360/Ps3 controller?
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awesome, welcome to the team! as for your first question, just look at a few posts above, gamegenie asked similar things. for the controller, it all depends on how confortable you are with charging. for me, the only change i made to the default xbox controls was just adding another G to the LT to make it easier to turn around during C2B combos.

also listen to m216xlegend and runis, they know what's up.
 
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