K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
For the full wall combo when you have already used 7B+K after the first w!.
Ivy Combos & Tech Traps discussion
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S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
I tried it on Siegfried, Yoshi, NM and Ivy. I'll try doing it later on Leixia, but I've got the feeling that this is the next character specific combo -.-
Edit: Tried it on Leixia and it didn't work at all. I tried it on different walls/stages, but CS or even a normal grab didn't connect. Great -.- here's the next character specific combo....
Ivy why you so picky
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
Well she is a woman. XD
I could get it to work on her a couple of times, it was dependent on how high she was when she hit the wall. It was made an extra pain by the fact that sometimes she would hit the wall too high and the CS would launch too early. o.O This was usually the case when the 66B BE hit when she was backturned.
I could get it to work on her a couple of times, it was dependent on how high she was when she hit the wall. It was made an extra pain by the fact that sometimes she would hit the wall too high and the CS would launch too early. o.O This was usually the case when the 66B BE hit when she was backturned.
S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
I just try to remember which attack did the first w!. E.g. the w! of 6B8 BE guarantees on most characters a 66B BE,CS follow-up. I never do the CS after a CH 66B BEw!, because it's far too situational.
Still not sure if the combo is worth executing it. The NM player I play has started breaking the CS :( and A+G isn't the dmg worth imo. I'm just going to use it against players, who usually don't play against me; I hope it surprises them.
Some random wall specific stuff I found out:
Still not sure if the combo is worth executing it. The NM player I play has started breaking the CS :( and A+G isn't the dmg worth imo. I'm just going to use it against players, who usually don't play against me; I hope it surprises them.
Some random wall specific stuff I found out:
- 8A+BB after w! on small walls, which break apart gives you a RO
- 7B+K after 6B8 BEw! on Voldo's stage walls, which fall down (dunno Voldo's stage name in ENG, cuz I've got the GER version of the game) doesn't connect. You need to do 8B+K
- after 6B8 BEw! at the windows of "tower of glory: spiral of good and evil" stage (or something accross those lines^^') 66B BE, 8A+B gives you a RO.
godspu
[09] Warrior
as long as you're using 2 bars, after you break the windows with 6B8 BEw! you can also get a ringout with 2A+B and another 6B8BE, which makes you happy that the move can actually ring out somewhere lol.
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
If CS hits a back turned opponent is it unbreakable like a back grab or can they still get out of it?
S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
^nope, they can't.
Edit: Except for Asta, Zwei and Voldo. Are there other chars, who can break a back grabs?
Edit: Except for Asta, Zwei and Voldo. Are there other chars, who can break a back grabs?
Slade
[14] Master
Just those three.
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
@#$% the 6 3B thing, I give up. Just gonna stick with double 2B+K. :(
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
Not sure if this is out there, but 292 damage combo with Elyisum-Ivy.
3A+B (delay->) 6B8 BE W! 7B+K 6B8 BE W! iWR A+B.A (tech trap: all but left) 1K CE. You can do 8B for a kill, though.
3A+B (delay->) 6B8 BE W! 7B+K 6B8 BE W! iWR A+B.A (tech trap: all but left) 1K CE. You can do 8B for a kill, though.
KineticClash
[10] Knight
Not trying to be "that guy" but tech traps aren't combos.
WhYYZ
[10] Knight
If you're opponent isn't a walking wikipedia tech traps can be really good and sometimes be combo's against Ukemi happy people. (I stopped ukeming against Natsu stupid bomb shit.)
KineticClash
[10] Knight
It wasn't anything against tech traps. Of course they're useful.
But tech traps aren't true combos, which is why it's important to distinguish the two.
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
I don't want do be "that guy" but they combo in this game, so... xD
KineticClash
[10] Knight
You're right. Natsu 2A+B combos infinitely with itself. Ban Natsu. =P
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
That is beside the point. I'm just saying.. In four, I didn't consider tech traps combos in SC4 'cause when they ukemied, your damage counter reset and you started a new combo, but in this one, the counter keeps counting, so.. :b
S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
I played against Keev 2 days ago, he was using Ivy and did 3B+K as a whiff punisher and tech-traped me after it with 8B+K. After that I went to the lab and found out that 8B+K tech-traps when the opponent techs backwards and right. I didn't get it to work on a left tech.
KineticClash
[10] Knight
How does his Ivy look compared to his NM?
S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
He spaced a lot against me with Ivy and baited a lot of whiffs. On wake up he abuses 2K and he does a lot 1K. I lost every match against him ^^' it was 6-0 for him at the end; two times against his Ivy and 4 times against NM. His NM feels similar to his Ivy; he steps like crazy with both of them and everytime I do an attack it whiffs. Keev is so difficult to read; I felt completely free against him. I'm quite confidence in my Ivy knowledge and he was mostly using basics, but his spacing skills made up with it. Seriously, I never never saw somebody move like him, it felt like he totally knew what I was going to do next and stepped always right.
S0ULA55A51N
[09] Warrior
The combo/tech trap thread is nearly completeted. I'll finish the tech trap section when I find my tech trap notes. If you guys find any errors or if there is something missing, point them pls out, I'll correct them as soon as possible.
A little feed-back would be also nice^^. It's my first time doing something like this; not really sure if I have done stuff in the right way.
A little feed-back would be also nice^^. It's my first time doing something like this; not really sure if I have done stuff in the right way.