having learned from my mistake in my previous post, i hope i am posting in the right thread now. crosses fingers.
i am having a very hard time with ivy and kilik. i am not a great player, but i am certainly trying. i am proficient even above average but not an expert. previous advice has often been along the lines of having to learn how to play ivy and kilik as well as i can play mitsurugi to learn their moves. that may be a hurdle i have to cross eventually to improve but i'd really prefer to dodge that bullet in the short term.
in the case of kilik, it is several specific moves that are giving me trouble but i think i am starting to get the hang of overcoming them.
but in the case of ivy it always seems like everything ivy does beats everything i do and no matter how i block or where i stand ivy will win. i can take rounds, but generally only through tech traps. in any exchange where we are trading swings and jockeying for position i am destined to lose.
i would greatly appreciate any simple advice you could provide.
thank-you in advance for your consideration of my concern
Your explanation is a bit too general... I don't think anyone can tell you exactly what you need to do. But I kind of know where you are because every player probably gone through this stage before. Here's some thing that might help... you need to analysis yourself and ask these questions:
1) When an ivy player is beating out all your moves with hers, is that mean you keep getting counter hit by her? If yes, then ask your self the next question.
2) Why is she landing counter hit? a) I'm always attacking at disadvantage (meaning I always force another attack after my initial attack is block) b) I don't always attack at disadvantage, but I always use BIG attack only, so I keep getting interrupt my small fast poke... C) I'm just not guarding at all...
3) If I want to make sure she won't be interrupting all my attacks, what should I do?
a) I can attack at +frame (meaning you attack after blocking her attacks)
b) I can do more small poke so she won't be doing small poke against my big attacks all the time
c) I can do things like 4B to evade->counter her small pokes
Just keep in mind that her attack cannot ALWAYS outspeed you in speed, meaning if you keep getting interupt by her, YOU are doing something wrong. Try to SEE WHY you are getting it, then everything will start to make sense. Remember this "if you are too focus at the leaves, you will not see the tree, and if you are too focus at the tree, you will not see the forest" (Quote from some famous samurai that I don't know) Look at the big picture and try to see Why it is happening, don't just focus on the moves that keeping hitting you, ask yourself why and when your opponent keep using it against you and what you can do against it next time in the same situation?
Hope this will help a bit.