Ok, to NVGA-
You keep posting about keeping negativity out, without addressing any of the issues generating it. (need to tell parts of the story though)
Dhalsim, Chingaook, Dezzz, I recognize your names from being mentioned to me by DFG, but do you even remember who I am? (I'm not being sarcastic)
Yea, I'm the guy who got SC4 nats planned, laid the ground work, rules and started all the information/hype for it. I was the guy running it, until some unfortunate forum related drama that removed me from the (at one time) main calibur fourms, which impeded my ability to effectively organize and plan nats (since this website did not exist yet). At first NVGA was involved to help with equipment and match recording for finals, in TULSA, OK. After more issues that splintered planning further, I offered NVGA the chance to run it, as DFG seemed anxious to get nationals under NVGA's banner. At the time, I thought this could do no harm. He made promises of keeping the plans I had intact and also promised he had many sponsors lined up to help promote and fund the event, as well as NVGA's vast resources he claimed to have to make the event outstanding. Looking back, none of this took place.
Why did I ask if you remembered me? Because I don't recall any of you being involved to any extent in the planning emails that took place between me and DFG, where he supposedly included key NVGA members for input (via CC emails) (maybe chingagook occasionally?). Rarely did anyone provide input aside from "sounds great, go for it!" on whatever was being discussed. Up until the plan to move Nats finals to supercon (which killed it all for me), I was heavily involved in the plan making discussion, though there were already a lot of changes made that I didn't like. NVGA promised a high amount of hype for each regional, and it produced none. Communication was pretty abysmal with most of the regional coordinators as well. Over time, I saw this go from a valid community effort, to an NVGA agenda that served their needs, not ours.
It seems like the NVGA'ers posting are only here for some sort of damage control, with no real idea of why people have issues or what went wrong.
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Well controlling damage is not necessarily bad thing, however this is about more than that. We are reviewing what happened both good and bad for the purposes of resolutions going forward. The truth is the easiest thing for us to do would be to stop responding and just leave it alone, something that's been done many times in the past by many other organizations.
This is not just controlling damage, it could actually increase it by drawing more attention to it but it's more than that.
You're right, we did not closely follow all those emails. I know I skimmed them, and to my brief review it looked like the primary planners were working through issues and changes throughout the event. Clearly for some people it was not ever worked thru.
Please go back and read my description of the NVGA structure. Each chapter is an independent organization. NVGA as a whole provides support. We do not run the show. We provide support for each other.
You are correct in that
to the extent that the event ran poorly in any areas (and we know for a fact it was not all poor, many things ran well) we failed in providing support.
We accept that blame. We were not ALL involved in many of the details which you yourself also state so clearly we cannot answer for all of the past discussions at the detailed level.
What we can do and ARE doing is addressing the issues in terms what should occur going forward.
So again, siding with your pleas of 'solutions' rather than mass negativity... I will not post every single plan or idea that was changed for the worse and why, because the list would be long and negative. However, regardless of DFG not being the 'founder' of NVGA, he still made a lot of questionable changes to favor NVGA and profitability, under your banner and none of you questioned it, and assumed it was status quo (from our perspective). So there is some shared accountability for your whole organization.
So I think I already agreed on shared accountability. That's why we are here.
Regarding the repeated mantra of our
failure to address the issues directly apparently
DFG's post HERE was missed where he took time to DETAIL his response issue by issue along with his own plans for solutions.
If you read that post, you may not agree with his issue by issue response or even his plans for solutions, fair enough, but please can we stop saying he hasn't responded to the actual issues?
If you are looking for an issue by issue detailed response from NVGA as a group, that is also fair but again as we acknowledged already, we provided support. We invested our own money, whether you think it was as much as "promised" or not. We will need time to investigate that and reach agreement as an association.
Finally, personally, I cannot speak for all the NVGA leaders but I appreciate your idea for running the event better under a reorganized community structure. I would certainly support it. In doing so perhaps we could provide some amends for shortfalls from the last event. For now I will present it to our founders and chapter leaders and ask for feedback.
Thanks.
