HolyForce
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Making new thread to discuss ring out combo.
Raphael General Discussion
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Hudathan
[09] Warrior
CNP
[09] Warrior
Anyone see a use for 66A+B,G? This cancel almost seems like a glitch because it looks like he still does the entire move - just without the sword. It used to mess me up all the time because I tend hold block immediately if I see that my move is going to be blocked. I've gotten better at not doing that, though, just to avoid this. Just wondering.
Dullyanna
[10] Knight
I think it's just a crappy feint. It's only potential use is to bait GIs, preferably after your own GI.
Hudathan
[09] Warrior
66A+B is very safe on block, so just let it come out if they're intent on blocking it and get pushed back.
CNP
[09] Warrior
Yeah, I know. I meant I used to do it on accident. "Crappy feint" indeed. It's got to be THE worst move in the game.
HolyForce
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Anyone else still actively studying Raphael?
WARUI_NE
Prettier than you
i am, Im currently wondering about his juggleing abillitys
Ground_zero
[08] Mercenary
Doesnt exist :P His dmg comes from his stun combos only.
Hudathan
[09] Warrior
Learn to 4 stuff or hope they duck 66A+B for some reason.
WARUI_NE
Prettier than you
how about any decent mix ups?
CNP
[09] Warrior
I think his throws are his best lows, so I like to mix those up with 33KB.
WuHT
Premium Moderator
you mean when raph is at advantage and the opponant is 100% going to defend what you're throwing at him?
I personally like gaining space.. ie throwing a 33KB, 3B, or WRB just to knock them away. Then I can either work on his soul guage or do a little bit of chip damage with 1A or 33B.
Btw : 11B at max range does enourmous soul guage (everyone knows) but it also pushes them back immensely. 8wrA+B (except 44) knocks them back even more at tip hit(so much that 3B easily misses them)
Tiamat
[11] Champion
33KB to gain space only works if they have no idea how to punish it
WARUI_NE
Prettier than you
yeah i also find that 44b is a good move for space if the enemy does not understand the basics for punishment
Hudathan
[09] Warrior
His throws especially from VE are the best thing he has to work mix ups off of. Since those options aren't too great period he needs to be a con man in order to get his damage. Play around with the soul gauge a little bit and try to bait a ch/tc/whiff. By design he does not have what it takes to be a straight forward character when it comes to getting damage so you have to play around with the tricks.
CNP
[09] Warrior
33KB is punishable? I don't know the frames for it, but I've never been punished after it. Gotta test this.
Dullyanna
[10] Knight
Only Sophie, Cassie, and possibly Amy can punish 33K:B, I think.
CNP
[09] Warrior
Yeah, those three can. Sieg gets 3B. I bet Cervy gets iGDR and Voldo gets 6:6B, but I didn't test those. Yep, the move is totally unsafe against those who have the right range and speed.