Maxou
[11] Champion
Sexy Umbrella Combos
So you're saying 33B 214B A+K B is combo?? That's interesting, I'll be testing that.
So you're saying 33B 214B A+K B is combo?? That's interesting, I'll be testing that.
Setsuka Combos
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Angrel-San
[10] Knight
Sexy Umbrella Combos
No Maxou.
After the launchers (33B, 11B) do A+K B > 11B > 2A+B > ground stun > RCC A+K B > JF Umbrella.
It also works after 1B:B > 214B > A+K B.
No Maxou.
After the launchers (33B, 11B) do A+K B > 11B > 2A+B > ground stun > RCC A+K B > JF Umbrella.
It also works after 1B:B > 214B > A+K B.
Shenrei
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
I tested this out as soon as I saw this. Unless I'm doing something wrong, after A+KB from NH33B and 11B, I could not get 11B to relaunch - it would hit and they would stay grounded. From 1B:B > 214 B > A+KB, 11B seemed to whiff more than I wanted it to. This was with a second controller plugged in so I could ensure they didn't roll or tech.
I tested this out as soon as I saw this. Unless I'm doing something wrong, after A+KB from NH33B and 11B, I could not get 11B to relaunch - it would hit and they would stay grounded. From 1B:B > 214 B > A+KB, 11B seemed to whiff more than I wanted it to. This was with a second controller plugged in so I could ensure they didn't roll or tech.
Shade_Buster
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
Having the same outcome as Shenrei (done in the same manner with the second controller). I think it's only possible when the opponent techs.
Having the same outcome as Shenrei (done in the same manner with the second controller). I think it's only possible when the opponent techs.
CheeseOfTheDay
[10] Knight
Sexy Umbrella Combos
I cant test it right now, but 33B A+K B is not a combo.
I cant test it right now, but 33B A+K B is not a combo.
Angrel-San
[10] Knight
Angrel-San
[10] Knight
Sexy Umbrella Combos
Well, I didn't had a problem with 11B whiffing on 1B combo but you and Shade are correct regardless. This ain't a combo. It's a tech catch.
It's still great as Setsuka pressures on oki with A+K B for 47 points so she forces a reaction on wakeup. It has potential but it isn't a true combo so that's that.
Thanks for your help Shenrei and Shade.
Much appreciated.
Time to get to work on those techs.
Well, I didn't had a problem with 11B whiffing on 1B combo but you and Shade are correct regardless. This ain't a combo. It's a tech catch.
It's still great as Setsuka pressures on oki with A+K B for 47 points so she forces a reaction on wakeup. It has potential but it isn't a true combo so that's that.
Thanks for your help Shenrei and Shade.
Much appreciated.
Time to get to work on those techs.
Angrel-San
[10] Knight
Sexy Umbrella Combos
So, any progress in recreating this situation, peeps?
There should be one.
So, any progress in recreating this situation, peeps?
There should be one.
Shenrei
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
I started on it, but it was goin forward pretty slow. I think this is something I would rather test with real people instead of the computer
I started on it, but it was goin forward pretty slow. I think this is something I would rather test with real people instead of the computer
CheeseOfTheDay
[10] Knight
Sexy Umbrella Combos
And i forgoth to check it xD.
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CH 11A ssr/ssl A+KB jf umbrella deal a little more dmg.
And i forgoth to check it xD.
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CH 11A ssr/ssl A+KB jf umbrella deal a little more dmg.
Shade_Buster
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
Ah, I've been doing that instead of RCC-ing all this time and never thought about a damage difference. Cool. :D
Question..
Is 22A+B, A really guaranteed after 214B+G? Sometimes it whiffs completely when the enemy isn't near a wall. :/
Ah, I've been doing that instead of RCC-ing all this time and never thought about a damage difference. Cool. :D
Question..
Is 22A+B, A really guaranteed after 214B+G? Sometimes it whiffs completely when the enemy isn't near a wall. :/
eltoshan
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
I believe 214B+G 22A+BA is character dependent?
I believe 214B+G 22A+BA is character dependent?
Impending_Doom66
[09] Warrior
DrHobo
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
Just a question, are all moves without the little *Only possible with JF umbrella* tag possible without it? I mean it seems like it'd be kind of obvious but some of those moves just seem like they'd be hard to do without it.
This should be most if not all of setsuka's combos and their damage on normal and counter hit. Let me know if I missed anything or if anything is not guranteed.
Natural Combo (NC)
Damage will vary depending on positioning (normal,slighty off axis, to the side or back)
AA (20-22) CH(22-24)
1A:A (46-50) CH(49-52)
BB (30-33) CH (32-36)
1B:B (20-22) CH(22-24)
44K,B (42-46) CH(45-50)
2143B:B (30-33) CH(33-36)
44B,A (38-41) CH(41-45)
22A+B,A (28) CH(28-30)
22B,B (44-48) CH(49-52)
BT B+K:B (40-44) CH (44-48)
6A,A (38-41) CH(41-45)
Juggle Combos
3B
- 214~3a:B (50)
33B
- bA 33B (54)
214B+G
- 214~3a:B 33B (65) (70)
-near wall 22A+B A (57)
agB
- bA 33B (65) CH(71)
- a:gB 214~3aB (79) CH(85)
Stun Combos
214B CH
A+K B 214~3a:B (63)
1B:B
-214~3B:B 214~3a:B (64) CH(66) *can only be done with JF umbrella*
-214B A+K B 214~3a:B (68) CH (70)
33B CH
- 214~3B:B 214~3a:B (72) *can only be done with JF umbrella*
- 6K A+K B 214~3a:B (65)
4A CH
-33B 214~3B:B A+K B 214~3a:B(115) (111 w/o JF) not sure if A+K is techable (79 damage if opponent does not try to tech A+K B)
-33B, 214~3B:B, 214~3a:B, 33B (87-92) *Only possible with JF Umbrella*
- B+K 61B 44B+K (82)
- B+K 61B 11A+B (78)
- 214B A+K B 214~3a:B (68)
- 3B 44B+K (70)
-bA (67)
-1B:B 214B A+K B 214~3a:B (63) *shakeable after 1B:B*
214~3B:B 214~3a:B (68) *can only be done with JF umbrella*
22_88A
- BT B+K:B 33B (68)
11_77B
-a:gB 214~3a:B (73) CH (77)
-bA 33B (66-67) CH (71-72) *33B is guranteed if bA crosses over*
2A+B
- 22A+B A (47) CH(52)
11A CH
-A+K B 214~3a:B (75) (71 w/o JF)
-22A+B A (58)
FC 3A+B
-214~3B:B 214~3a:B (64) CH(68) *can only be done with JF umbrella*
-214B A+K B 214~3a:B (68) CH(72)
Max Range FC 3A+B:
- 33B, 6K, A+K B, 214~3a:B (71 - 69 w/o JF) (On CH: 75 - 72 w/o JF)
- 33B, 214~3B:B, 214~3a:B, 33B (82) (On CH: 88) *Only possible with JF Umbrella*
A+B GI JI means Just impact
levels 1-3 (just impact only)
-214~3aB (67)
-214~3a:B (72)
-33B (44)
levels 4-5
-1B:B (44) JI(50)
-33B (38) JI(44)
-2k (37) JI(43)
-214B(37) JI(43)
levels 6-7
-B+K 61B 44B+K (79) JI(83)
-B+K 61B 11A+B (73) JI(77)
-33B 6K A+K B 214~3 a:B (70) JI(74)
-214B A+K B 214~3a:B (68) JI(72)
levels 8-10 you get nothing
Most combos that end in 33B are techable to setsuka's right.
Shakeable stun combos
4K (kick is shakeable)
-33B combos
-214B combo
1B:B
-1B:B combos
shakeable after 2nd 1B:B
Tech Traps
A+G
-A+K B 214~3a:B (72) (68 w/o JF) *If opponent techs to setsuka's right A+K B will not crossover*
Just a question, are all moves without the little *Only possible with JF umbrella* tag possible without it? I mean it seems like it'd be kind of obvious but some of those moves just seem like they'd be hard to do without it.
eltoshan
[09] Warrior
Sexy Umbrella Combos
lol there's no need to quote that much text.
And to answer your question, JF umbrella is required after 2143B:B
lol there's no need to quote that much text.
And to answer your question, JF umbrella is required after 2143B:B
CheeseOfTheDay
[10] Knight
Sexy Setsuka Combos
I post i little transcript for my combo movie (plus some of darkside community project), that part witch is, for sure not that obvious for some of you, but you are too shy to ask ; D.
1:03 - combo on mitsu double hit. Combo after double hit umbrella can be done only witch moving wall, and only while that wall moving foward, the rest of combo is able to pull only while that wall moving backward. This double hit is a good way to train and learn fast motion for JF umbrella.
1:08 - combo on mina, can be only made on corner. First hit of 66BA must throw opp on first wall, second hit on second wall (not the same). The same thing is witch 66B(W!)A(W!) BT B+K:B from darkside, only specyfic angle is needed.
1:11 - 4A => FC3A+B connect only from specyfic angle and distance (same thing as in sc3). After close FC3A+B 33B will never connect, but 2363B will always (glith). So, on all the combos with FC3A+B you must go 236 3B to restun.
1:26 - A+K glith that make Setsuka change her direction while she is in air (even angel of 180). Pretty rare, need specyfic timing, with is different for some characters. Can be done without 236 but its more flashy witch it.
1:40 - on ivy, need moving wall (backward)
2:25 - can be done only when first hit whiffs.
3:25 - after last wall character have "in air" state, so throws, restuns can be only make while he touch the ground (stun effect schows up), we have not much time and very low damage scale.
from darkside:
aGI, 4th attack BT B+K:B - guaranteed but only in front of wall and wery strict distance from it.
aGI 3rd attack 4A - can be only done on big characters. The same is witch aGI 214B+G
I post i little transcript for my combo movie (plus some of darkside community project), that part witch is, for sure not that obvious for some of you, but you are too shy to ask ; D.
1:03 - combo on mitsu double hit. Combo after double hit umbrella can be done only witch moving wall, and only while that wall moving foward, the rest of combo is able to pull only while that wall moving backward. This double hit is a good way to train and learn fast motion for JF umbrella.
1:08 - combo on mina, can be only made on corner. First hit of 66BA must throw opp on first wall, second hit on second wall (not the same). The same thing is witch 66B(W!)A(W!) BT B+K:B from darkside, only specyfic angle is needed.
1:11 - 4A => FC3A+B connect only from specyfic angle and distance (same thing as in sc3). After close FC3A+B 33B will never connect, but 2363B will always (glith). So, on all the combos with FC3A+B you must go 236 3B to restun.
1:26 - A+K glith that make Setsuka change her direction while she is in air (even angel of 180). Pretty rare, need specyfic timing, with is different for some characters. Can be done without 236 but its more flashy witch it.
1:40 - on ivy, need moving wall (backward)
2:25 - can be done only when first hit whiffs.
3:25 - after last wall character have "in air" state, so throws, restuns can be only make while he touch the ground (stun effect schows up), we have not much time and very low damage scale.
from darkside:
aGI, 4th attack BT B+K:B - guaranteed but only in front of wall and wery strict distance from it.
aGI 3rd attack 4A - can be only done on big characters. The same is witch aGI 214B+G
TheWatcherAlias
[08] Mercenary
Sexy Setsuka Combos
Hey guys, I'm looking for A+G combos and 214B+G combos.
I know about the A+G, A+K,B JF Umbrella combo but the guy seems to get up too fast after the throw. Or if she lands the A+K,B it lands awkwardly like she's practically on top of the other guy and doesn't fully get to other side. Am I doing something wrong? Also, if there are any other ones besides this please list them.
As for 214B+G combos, I just want to know if there are any non-wall combos.
Cheeseoftheday: Can you post the link to your movie please? Is it a new one? Loved your other movies.
Hey guys, I'm looking for A+G combos and 214B+G combos.
I know about the A+G, A+K,B JF Umbrella combo but the guy seems to get up too fast after the throw. Or if she lands the A+K,B it lands awkwardly like she's practically on top of the other guy and doesn't fully get to other side. Am I doing something wrong? Also, if there are any other ones besides this please list them.
As for 214B+G combos, I just want to know if there are any non-wall combos.
Cheeseoftheday: Can you post the link to your movie please? Is it a new one? Loved your other movies.
CheeseOfTheDay
[10] Knight
Sexy Setsuka Combos
Well i cant because bad bad moderators will ban me for posting vid on topic where you shouldnt post vids:P.
But you can check video section, or type Dark Rain on youtube sercher, or just go to my youtube acc:).
Well i cant because bad bad moderators will ban me for posting vid on topic where you shouldnt post vids:P.
But you can check video section, or type Dark Rain on youtube sercher, or just go to my youtube acc:).
Angrel-San
[10] Knight
Sexy Setsuka Combos
Bad Bad Moderators? Ban?
Lies I'm telling you, LIES!!! LOL!
And go ahead if you want Chesse and anyone else.
I don't mind putting video references for combos since it's a visual aid and it helps.
Bad Bad Moderators? Ban?
Lies I'm telling you, LIES!!! LOL!
And go ahead if you want Chesse and anyone else.
I don't mind putting video references for combos since it's a visual aid and it helps.
Shenrei
[09] Warrior
Sexy Setsuka Combos
I hate the mods here! They should be banned! :(
I hate the mods here! They should be banned! :(