Siegfried Matchup Discussion Thread

[ChaosK]

Well i guess i just copy my post over from ger calibur:

IMO
Siegfried vs:

Aeon: 6:4
Algol: 4:6
Alpha: 3:7
Asta: 4:6 (its fairly even but imo he just has the dmg advantage in his favor, so slightly 4:6. 5:5 sounds reasonable though)
Cervy: 4:6
Damp: 7:3
Ezio: 6:4
Hilde: not sure - 5:5
Ivy: 5:5
Leixia: 6:4
Maxi: 5:5
Mitsurugi: 4:6
Natsu: 4:6
Nightmare: 5:5
Patroklos: 4:6
Pyrrha: 4:6
Pyrrha Omega: 3:7
Raphael: 5:5
Tira: 6:4/ 5:5
Viola: not sure - 5:5
Voldo: 5:5
Xiba: 5:5
Yoshimitsu: 5:5/6:4 (he has solid anti SCH tools but i consider him to be weak to spacing/zoning)
Zwei: 6:4

 

[MKHSpartan]

I quite like your match-up list Slayer it actually represents how I feel about all of them (mainly the 2:8 to Omega lol).

Edit: I'll try give this Match-up Chart a go.

Aeon: 5:5 maybe 6:4
Algol: 4:6
Alpha: 3:7 (I have a friend who plays Alpha damn he does damage)
Asta: 4-6
Cervy: 4:6
Damp: 7:3 (If only 2kkkkk worked right in this match-up for his stances...)
Ezio: 6:4
Hilde: 4:6 (22B hurts Sieg hard in my opinion so much damage and she spaces him with the spear)
Ivy: 5:5
Leixia: 6:4
Maxi: 5:5 (Russian roulette with nun-chucks!)
Mitsu: 4:6
Natsu: 4:6
Nightmare: 5:5
Patroklos: 4:6
Pyrrha: 4:6
Pyrrha Omega: -10:damn wheres that infinity symbol lol...
Raph: 6:4? Only ever faced one decent Raph so cant say really
Tira: Hmmm 5:5?
Viola: 4:6
Voldo: 5:5?
Xiba: 5:5
Yoshi: 5:5
Z.W.E.I. : 6:4

 

[Solo]

I guess I'll post my thoughts on Sieg's MUs

To me at least
Siegfried vs:

Aeon: 5:5
Algol: 4:6
Alpha: 4:6
Asta: 4:6
Cervy: 4:6
Damp: Don't know
Hilde: 5:5
Ivy: 5:5
Leixia: 5:5
Maxi: 5:5
Mitsurugi: 4:6
Natsu: 3:7
Nightmare: 5:5
Patroklos: 5:5
Pyrrha: 4:6
Pyrrha Omega: 2:8
Raphael: 5:5
Tira: 6:4
Viola: 6:4
Voldo: 5:5
Xiba: 5:5
Yoshimitsu: 5:5
Zwei: 6:4

 

[ChaosK]

Why alpha "only" 4:6? Imo its almost as bad as omega, if not the same.

 

[Solo]

Why alpha "only" 4:6? Imo its almost as bad as omega, if not the same.

True, don't know why but it feels like it's not as bad. I feel like I can space him out better.

 

[JustinAkatsuki]

my lists is gonna suck! oh well u guys are gonna have to see it anyway....
Siggy matchups
Aeon:5.5
Algol:4-6
Alpha:4-6
Asta:4-6 or 5-5
Cervy:4-6
Damp:???( needs OOF opinion it)
Hilde:5-5
Ivy:5-5
leixia:6-4
maxi:5-5
Mitsurugi:4-6
Natsu:4-6
nightmare:5-5
Pat:4-6
Omega:3-7
Raph:???
Tira:5-5
Viola:4-6
Voldo:5-5
yoshi:5-5
Zwei:4-6 :D

 

[Solo]

Is your list "Sieg:Versus" or "Versus:Sieg". What I may say depends on your answer. :P

 

[JustinAkatsuki]

Is your list "Sieg:Versus" or "Versus:Sieg". What I may say depends on your answer. :P

umm sieg: Versus. :D

 

[Solo]

Might want to flip that Zwei one around then. :P
Sieg has an advantage over him.

 

[Bastet]

Just a tip.
Against Leixia: Be careful with blocked 3(B). If Siegfried gets into SCH and decides to attack he is doomed. I mean that if Leixia does 3B+K (~K_kG) after a blocked 3(B) she will hit Siegfried, even if he decides to attack with SCH K, because as it seems Leixia's 3B+K ducks even that (STC?). The only way for Siegfried to avoid the damage after the blocked 3(B) is to step immediately back while being in SCH. That way Leixia's move will whiff and that gives Siegfried the chance to punish...

Not sure if this has been mentioned before...

 

[JustinAkatsuki]

Might want to flip that Zwei one around then. :P
Sieg has an advantage over him.

am gonna make it 5-5! to the labbbbbbb

 

[Solo]

am gonna make it 5-5! to the labbbbbbb

It's more like a 6:4 or Sieg though. Sieg can blow up Zwei once you know Zwei's options. WR B is your friend.

 

[JustinAkatsuki]

It's more like a 6:4 or Sieg though. Sieg can blow up Zwei once you know Zwei's options. WR B is your friend.

Meh I know! just like messing around :p too bad nearly all zwei matchups are 4-6 for him.........

 

[Solo]

Meh I know! just like messing around :p too bad nearly all zwei matchups are 4-6 for him.........

 

[Bastet]

I knew I'd see this pic again :D

 

[ShenYuan]

By the way, I need advice on approaching siegfried vs siegfried. It is incredibly annoying and difficult to come up with a strategy that is CONSISTENT. Not sure if any of you feel that way. I can't beat other siegfrieds :X

 

[Solo]

By the way, I need advice on approaching siegfried vs siegfried. It is incredibly annoying and difficult to come up with a strategy that is CONSISTENT. Not sure if any of you feel that way. I can't beat other siegfrieds :X

I don't think any Siegfried player can, it's one of the most confusing mirrors ever. Lol

 

[ShenYuan]

Yeah. whenever i fight sieg vs sieg, i feel it becomes some horriby hard to avoid RPS game thats just so random. No one zones sieg, not even sieg. So how do you deal with it? Very irritating.

-grumblegrumble-

 

[ChaosK]

I try to use the backstep strategy and whiffpunish. At least that seems to be the best tactic for other chars to deal with him so why not do it in the mirror.

Btw i think astaroth and nm can effectively zone siegfried. Spacing is another topic though.

 

[Heaton]

Yeah. whenever i fight sieg vs sieg, i feel it becomes some horriby hard to avoid RPS game thats just so random. No one zones sieg, not even sieg. So how do you deal with it? Very irritating.

-grumblegrumble-

I just pick Raphael and watch them fall to character ignorance. Not to mention that Raphael has answers for nearly all of Siegfried's tools, and can outspace Siegfried in the back-and-forth game. It's one of Raphael's better match-ups, and one I feel comfortable in.

Learn pocket Raphael.