Soul Calibur 6 Discussion

[Crash X]

I may be in minority, but I liked vampire Castlevania-Raph and his whole Amy-obsession plot. It looks a lot better when you review it from the very beginning when he was human and haven't met Amy yet to the point when he became both physically and mentaly inhuman with the only thing making him happy while also making him even more insane is his love for his adopted daughter.
But SCV's vampire-ghost-while-body-is-being-possessed-by-Nightmare thing is a little too much, to the point of being stupid. Cool hat though, I love hats.

You're not, I myself don't mind Vamp Raph either. Also, emphasis on him being Amy obsessed to the point whenever he does his 236B and gets a clean hit in V he literally shouts "AAAAAMMMMYYY" and it's like "Jeez Raph calm down."

And I'd be okay with him having a hat in one of his costumes for SC6, or just bring the entire costume back as unlockable or DLC.

 

[JohnMcKee]

You're not, I myself don't mind Vamp Raph either. Also, emphasis on him being Amy obsessed to the point whenever he does his 236B and gets a clean hit in V he literally shouts "AAAAAMMMMYYY" and it's like "Jeez Raph calm down."

And I'd be okay with him having a hat in one of his costumes for SC6, or just bring the entire costume back as unlockable or DLC.

I forgot about that shout! XD

Yeah I'd pay for his outfit as a DLC!

 

[Alucard]

You're not, I myself don't mind Vamp Raph either. Also, emphasis on him being Amy obsessed to the point whenever he does his 236B and gets a clean hit in V he literally shouts "AAAAAMMMMYYY" and it's like "Jeez Raph calm down."

And I'd be okay with him having a hat in one of his costumes for SC6, or just bring the entire costume back as unlockable or DLC.

I actually prefer his design from SC4 (my PP xD) it looked so Castlevania and reminded me of Alucard from SotN ^^
I want SC4 costume as DLC pls (Amy's costume too while their at it :p)

 

[SSfox]

I loved the Hat on Raph personally, it gave him some Zorro vibe, which make him looks even sicker.

Human Raph with Hat for the win.

 

[Macaulyn]

I think the main problem with Raphael is that we know the reason of his obsession, but we see nothing of it. We don't see any suffering from him and Amy, in fact, Amy seems very level headed and quite arrogant. Maybe if we saw some of that, it would help justify his actions, but as it is, it feels like an exaggeration.

 

[Ninjaguy446]

Guys I'm hoping so hard that it's a MK9 style reboot. Can you imagine how amazing it would be if every single character had slightly revamped costumes from every game available and then a new one for once the story goes past SC5? (Ex. Sophie would have revamped SC, SC2, SC3, and SC4 1P and 2P, with a new SC6 costume)

If they don't do that, I would highkey be willing to pay for costumes from previous entries as DLC. As long as they milk that cow I'll throw my money at them

 

[WuHT]

Guys I'm hoping so hard that it's a MK9 style reboot. Can you imagine how amazing it would be if every single character had slightly revamped costumes from every game available and then a new one for once the story goes past SC5? (Ex. Sophie would have revamped SC, SC2, SC3, and SC4 1P and 2P, with a new SC6 costume)

If they don't do that, I would highkey be willing to pay for costumes from previous entries as DLC. As long as they milk that cow I'll throw my money at them

I don't think the SC4 costumes would be that much work because they already have H/M/L break states. SC5 costumes only have 1 break state so they'll have to figure out how to divide it amongst the H/M/L or have to actually put some work into it.

The older costumes are not as nearly polished as the SC4/5 ones , especially put in 1080p and higher resolution.

 

[Alucard]

I don't think the SC4 costumes would be that much work because they already have H/M/L break states. SC5 costumes only have 1 break state so they'll have to figure out how to divide it amongst the H/M/L or have to actually put some work into it.

The older costumes are not as nearly polished as the SC4/5 ones , especially put in 1080p and higher resolution.

Well SC4 costumes were in SCLS so they easily managed to put Sophitia, Amy, Mina's (cassandra was she in that game and taki? Hey they brought back all the girls xD) costumes back and I don't think they did a lot of work with that game since it was just SCV engine. They proved us that they can import stuff from SC4

 

[Keldon_Creep]

If I remember right they said something it being a conscious decision that was made to avoid counter picking. I'm thinking it'll remain the same with this game.

I think that's a great option for online, as it streamlines, the whole thing. But In a tournament setting, I think counter play is totally valid considering it's ettiquette (sp?) for the loser to change character while the winner remains the same, or stage. First round doesn't matter much to me, it's always way more fun to see what happens next :)

 

[Ninjaguy446]

I don't think the SC4 costumes would be that much work because they already have H/M/L break states. SC5 costumes only have 1 break state so they'll have to figure out how to divide it amongst the H/M/L or have to actually put some work into it.

The older costumes are not as nearly polished as the SC4/5 ones , especially put in 1080p and higher resolution.

I didn't necessarily mean port over the exact costumes, but do what they did with Sophitia's SC1 costume and remix the costume so to speak. So like even character's SC4 costumes would look a little bit different.

 

[Alucard]

I didn't necessarily mean port over the exact costumes, but do what they did with Sophitia's SC1 costume and remix the costume so to speak. So like even character's SC4 costumes would look a little bit different.

Oh.. now you may be pushing it a lil bit don't you think xD
I still prefer to have more characters over more costumes (2 costumes per character is fine (even if it shouldn't be the case when you see DoA5 had at the game launch 5-10 costumes per character and 21 characters)).
But I do like you idea :p

 

[JohnMcKee]

Oh.. now you may be pushing it a lil bit don't you think xD
I still prefer to have more characters over more costumes (2 costumes per character is fine (even if it shouldn't be the case when you see DoA5 had at the game launch 5-10 costumes per character and 21 characters)).
But I do like you idea :p

2 costumes is enough especially when you can create more yourself via character creation :P

 

[Alucard]

2 costumes is enough especially when you can create more yourself via character creation :P

Hmm, I think I might be in the minority with this one, but... I don't really like the character creation, most of the time it just looks weird... Like what ever you put on the character, you can see it doesn't fit them xD, and for example the belts are just flying in the air levitating around the character, so usually just avoid that feature.
I mean, sure I did use it in SCIII for chronicles of the sword and in SCIV to beat the tower challenges but that it ^^"

 

[Vergeben]

So I heard something new.
My main SCVI source said that they heard most of the Lost Swords roster that wasn't in SCV will be a part of SCVI.
Looking at that game's roster, it had Mitsurugi, Sophitia, Siegfried, Nightmare, Taki, Ivy, Astaroth, Maxi, Cervantes, Raphael, Amy, Seong Mi-Na, Cassandra, Hilde, Leixia, Patroklos, and Pyrrha.

Before I get into that, I want to focus on Hilde momentarily.
Hilde being post SCIII could mean she doesn't make it in due to that interview that said most returning characters are from SC1, but there are also returning characters from SCII and III, which is this video here:

I could see them making Hilde DLC though if they really want to though.
And looking at other characters on Lost Swords.... Pat, Pyrrha, and Leixia are obviously not going to make it unless they do some timeschitz and throw them on there in spite of fan reaction to them being pretty poor. But I honestly don't see that happening and them factoring them into the story.

Now to get back to the main point, if most of the Lost Swords roster that WASN'T on V is on VI, that boils it down to Taki, Amy, Seong Mi-Na, and Cassandra.
Most means "almost all" of them, yes? Yes. Then with Taki being known now to be a part of the roster (and I leaked that she was in on Christmas), that leaves probably only one and likely not two characters between Amy, Seong Mi-Na, and Cassandra making it onto SCVI.

When I think about it, looking at those 3, I could kiiiind of see Cassandra being excluded, maybe?
It depends on how much they want to include another sword & shield user if the roster is "limited."
Also, I have realized and seen that people are kind of tired of there being so many sword and shield users in the games.
Since Cassandra's introduction, there have been 3 or 4 on every game. Even Lost Swords.
SCII had 4 because of Sophitia, Cassandra, Lizardman, and Gamecube having Link.
SCIII had 4 because of the bonus character Abelia alongside Sophitia, Cassandra, and Lizardman.
SCIV had 3 because of Sophitia, Cassandra, and Lizardman.
Then SCV had 3 because of Patroklos, Pyrrha, and Pyrrha Omega.
Lost Swords had 4, as it had Sophitia, Cassandra, Patroklos, and Pyrrha.
I will say that in theory, Cassandra could always get the Aeon Calcos treatment that Lizardman got on SCV where they change his moveset/weapon as to not clutter up the game with too much of the same weapon combination.
As for what weapon Cassandra gets.... spear and shield, perhaps? That could be cool.

Furthermore, if Lizardman/Aeon is on SCVI (and I'd be surprised if he isn't, though I don't know if he is or not or what version he'll be based on) we have no idea if he'll revert back to the S&S styled moveset, or keep the two axes.
Anyways, I'm probably overthinking it, but that did come to mind and felt like something worth bringing up.

Seong Mi-Na's an OG, so she gets a bit of a big pass from people I think with the similarities between her and Kilik.
Kilik was technically the "clone" of her in the first place. It's not like Mi-Na couldn't get some more unique moves added in to her further distinguish the two as entirely separate though.
Plus, out of Amy, Cassandra, and herself, Seong Mi-Na was on SC1 if that matters.

Amy is in a weird spot. She was technically first playable on III as a bonus character, but considered "officially" part of the roster on IV.
But her moveset is similar to Raphael, and quite honestly "better" too.
Disclaimer: I don't know if Raphael is in or not yet, so consider this next section hypothetical
So it comes down to asking the question of if they don't mind having two rapier users again as they're two different "approaches" to the style (also one feminine and his masculine), but also including her could be "at the expense" of Raphael again unless he gets the proper buffs, or would they be as daring to do something like giving Amy the Viola moveset and combining that reference and connection together now that it's a reboot?
It's a strange spot they're in, I kind of feel with her.

Anyways, this was something interesting that I had to share with you since it opens up the floodgates of a whole new discussion now to speculate about.

 

[SSfox]

Everytime i see @Vergeben with a huge post leak, i'm like Xiba that just see a huge Meat in front of him.

 

[Alucard]

So I heard something new.
My main SCVI source said that they heard most of the Lost Swords roster that wasn't in SCV will be a part of SCVI.
Looking at that game's roster, it had Mitsurugi, Sophitia, Siegfried, Nightmare, Taki, Ivy, Astaroth, Maxi, Cervantes, Raphael, Amy, Seong Mi-Na, Cassandra, Hilde, Leixia, Patroklos, and Pyrrha.

Amy is in a weird spot. She was technically first playable on III as a bonus character, but considered "officially" part of the roster on IV.
But her moveset is similar to Raphael, and quite honestly "better" too.
Disclaimer: I don't know if Raphael is in or not yet, so consider this next section hypothetical
So it comes down to asking the question of if they don't mind having two rapier users again as they're two different "approaches" to the style (also one feminine and his masculine), but also including her could be "at the expense" of Raphael again unless he gets the proper buffs, or would they be as daring to do something like giving Amy the Viola moveset and combining that reference and connection together now that it's a reboot?
It's a strange spot they're in, I kind of feel with her.

Anyways, this was something interesting that I had to share with you since it opens up the floodgates of a whole new discussion now to speculate about.

Damn, why do I always have the worst mains in every game... :/
I really want Amy to come back as she was in 4, enjoyed a lot plying her, but in the same time I don't want to lose Raphael. We always had characters that use the same weapons, you said it yourself with the S&S combo, the staff for Killik and Mina, the ax/Hammer for Rock Asta, Katana, for Mitsu and Yoshi, but why when it comes to rapier, we can't have 2 styles :( is it that much to ask, that's why SCIV was one of my favorite xD

You at least gave me back some hope before shredding it just as fast XD thank you I feel like this is going to be the same as it was with SC5 for me :p
Well please let me know if you have anything about my main trio later on :p pls ^^

 

[Vergeben]

Everytime i see @Vergeben with a huge post leak, i'm like Xiba that just see a huge Meat in front of him.

FOOOOOD!

 

[Macaulyn]

There is one thing you should consider when approaching Amy, though, @Vergeben :

Yeah, as far as its known, they're different characters, but with Viola being incredibly similar to Amy in personality, voice and appearence, in addition to Amy being missing in SC5 while Viola doesn't have memories of her past and Raphael having special interactions with her, its quite likely that they're the same. In fact, there were some people saying that Viola was, at some point, meant to be just Amy with a new moveset, but they changed her during the mess that was the development of SC5. If Amy returns in SC6, she could be using her orb instead of a rapier, that is the most unique moveset we ever had in the series, and it would easily give Amy an edge against the other characters when it comes to uniqueness. Not to mention that, in the popularity poll, she actually managed to beat many long time characters (Seong Mi-Na, Cervantes, Voldo, Xianghua, Astaroth and Lizardman... she's beaten Rock too, but its not like its a big deal, right?) so I'd say her chances are fairly high, even if she is to become DLC.

 

[Soul]

Out of the three of those, i'd say Mi-na has the highest chance. She's also the one i'd like to see the most out of those three, even though seeing Cassandra back would be nice too.

EDIT: On the topic of Viola~Amy: I'd like to see her back using a rapier... AND AN ORB! The claw ruined the style for me honestly. lol

 

[Vergeben]

There is one thing you should consider when approaching Amy, though, @Vergeben :

Yeah, as far as its known, they're different characters, but with Viola being incredibly similar to Amy in personality, voice and appearence, in addition to Amy being missing in SC5 while Viola doesn't have memories of her past and Raphael having special interactions with her, its quite likely that they're the same. In fact, there were some people saying that Viola was, at some point, meant to be just Amy with a new moveset, but they changed her during the mess that was the development of SC5. If Amy returns in SC6, she could be using her orb instead of a rapier, that is the most unique moveset we ever had in the series, and it would easily give Amy an edge against the other characters when it comes to uniqueness. Not to mention that, in the popularity poll, she actually managed to beat many long time characters (Seong Mi-Na, Cervantes, Voldo, Xianghua, Astaroth and Lizardman... she's beaten Rock too, but its not like its a big deal, right?) so I'd say her chances are fairly high, even if she is to become DLC.

Believe me, I remember all that speculation and still feel she was OBVIOUSLY intended to be Viola, until they went out of their way to later be like "Nah they're different.... or something." and Viola's put in a position of being Amy's sister or some bullshit like that. lol
That was why I was saying and wondering how they would handle Amy and/or Viola on VI, since it's an interesting situation they have they can work with, with it being a reboot and all, they can do whatever they want in regards to that if they wanted.