Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

[Foot]

Its the base nightmare model with removed helmet. Just throw the thing into a 3d programm and you'll see.
And since nightmare first personified as siegfried it isnt strange that he still has that appearance even though he isnt sieg anymore.

 

[Ave]

Its the base nightmare model with removed helmet. Just throw the thing into a 3d programm and you'll see

My point is you have to mod it to get it like that. They obviously needed a model to base the armour on which is why he's under it lookin baldheaded af. SC6 Sieg is visible under it just through armour break.

 

[DanteSC3]

You can't be that dense. Even if that really is what's underneath the model, and I won't doubt that it is, that's because they just used Siegfried as a base when they were creating Nightmare's model, because the sword is drawing from the memories of when it was possessing Siegfried, so it was a developer shortcut.

The difference, though, is that when NIghtmare in SoulCalibur IV, in-game, has his high equipment broken, the mask doesn't get blown away so that you can see this face, it just gets battle damage. On top of that, when you make a customized Nightmare, it's not Siegfried's face you see when you're doing it like it is Raphael's face in SoulCalibur V, because it actually is possessing Raphael's body in SoulCalibur V. And Nightmare's high equipment broken in SoulCalibur VI reveals Siegfried's face intentionally, because this NIghtmare is possessing Siegfried's body.

 

[Foot]

Which mainly is a throwback to his sc2 costume. And yea at that point in time sieg was nightmare. But since sc3 he isnt anymore, so thats not really an argument to begin with. And who knows if thats not just his 1p for the first part of the story. And we get a different nm 2p that isnt sieg later on. On top of that they are sieg and nightmare, you cant go without either of them they are way too important. Which isnt the case for the mentioned female characters but also applies to males like rock hwang li long or whoever.

 

[Ave]

But this game is set before SC3.

 

[Foot]

We dont have a specific time window yet. They only mentioned that they are revisiting events, they didnt say anything about when the story will end.

 

[DanteSC3]

Do we need to draw you a picture?

 

[Foot]

We dont know that yet. They merely said they would be rivisiting events from the original titles they never said they would stop at sc2. And its not even relevant to begin with since its a reboot and the old storyline pretty much doesnt mean anything anymore.

 

[Ave]

We dont have a specific time window yet. They only mentioned that they are revisiting events

 

[Foot]

alrighty then. That still doesnt mean sieg wil lbe nightmare the entire time or that he even is. Cause its a new story line.
And whatever the case may be we only brought this up because the entire clone debate. Even if sieg and nightmare are the same person in 6 they are an exception to the rule and not comparable to viola amy. Sieg has been in the game forever and is one of the most important characters period. And well nightmare he is literally the PS logo cmon.

 

[Ave]

ok

 

[Norik]

It's amazing how people talk about "bland" male characters, a label they apply to characters as interesting and radically different as Mitsurugi, Astaroth, and fucking Lizardman, in the same post as they argue for generic teenage anime girl in a scampy dress #21.

 

[tirakai]

What an odd thing to be stubborn about. Siegfried is Nightmare during SC1 which this game is going back to, and you can literally see it in screenshots.

 

[Ave]

It's amazing how people talk about "bland" male characters, a label they apply to characters as interesting and radically different as Mitsurugi, Astaroth, and fucking Lizardman, in the same post as they argue for generic teenage anime girl in a scampy dress #21.

I think I'd take this statement more seriously if there actually were 21 females in total in the soul series character rosters. Sadly it's much less.

 

[Foot]

How does gender matter in any way ? The character is either popular/well designed enough to stay in the game or not. Thats as simple as it is

 

[Ave]

How does gender matter in any way ? The character is either popular/well designed enough to stay in the game or not. Thats as simple as it is

This argument makes no sense. The two most popular characters in the whole series were taken out in SC5.

 

[Foot]

And who would that be ?

 

[Klimat]

Nightmare is not Siegfried, it's a manifestation of SoulEdge possesing different bodies to use as its tools. Siegfried was just one of such tools at some point.
We haven't seen any alternative costumes so far, for all we know Siegmare might be Nightmare's P1 costume while his P2 costume might be hollow possesed armor with no Siegfried inside. Zasalamel is in the game, so SC3 plot points will probably get revisited.

 

[Ave]

And who would that be ?

 

[Foot]

Taki didnt get cut but replaced by natsu who is literally the same damn thing. And the same thing happened to kilik and xiang so thats not cutting a character. And talim only ever grew a fanbase because she got cut. I doubt ill see a single talim main in 6. And its not like they only cut female characters. They also cut rock zas yun.