Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

LisaK said:
SoulCaliburCom: achilles_Okubo confirmed participating in the #SoulCaliburWorldInvitational! You've all been warned...
Okubo: I knew yuttoto was watching. So did not play with my secret character.
Jandroid: Oh I get it, your secret character will be the new Season 2 character to throw everyone off. Smart move. :sc3hwang1:
Okubo: I knew someone will guess my move for the tournament.
Me:
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DanteSC3 said:
How long have
we been waiting for the
arrival of a
new character? The SOON (tm) meme can only
go on for so long before it’s run its course...
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cant wait!
 
artard4321 said:
I do remember that Okubo mentioned that the first character will be a "resurrection" character which implies that it's either a character who hasn't appeared in a long time, a character that will be heavily reworked, or both. If we're going by both then it could also be Li Long.

I know I'm rooting for Hwang but if they bring back a reworked Li Long with an actual three section staff (they censored Li Long in the European edition of Soul Blade by making his nunchucks look like a sorry excuse of a three section staff) then that would get me really hyped. Li Long with a three section staff was something I requested a long time ago lol.
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Give me one ticket on the Li Long hype train in general for when that ride does depart, but this very clearly is not that moment: I just don't think there's any chance, based on the evidence we have before us, that Li Long is our Invitational reveal, or in Season Two to begin with. I think he's primed for Season Three, if there is one (and I think there will be) but no sooner, more's the pity.

But I also find this "I hope they make him a three-section-staff moveset" to be bizarre and, in any event, certain to never happen: Namco is not going to bring back a legacy character (in their classic vibe reboot game no less) and then completely throw his moveset out the window and start for scratch. It would be more work, would run counter to their effort to recapture the tone and magic of the earlier games, and would piss off fans who have waited four games for the return of a classic playstyle--all for no advantage, since they could just as easily give a new moveset to a new character.

Beyond that, I just don't understand why a few fans here think this makes sense. There seems to be some sort of sentiment that his classic weapons (two nunchuks) are similar to a three-section-staff for some reason--I guess because of the superficial details that they involve lengths of rod attached by chains? But the reality is that those two varieties of weapon require vastly different techniques and entirely different types of motions: that is to say, they require vastly different applications of kinesiology, having range of motion and application of Newtonian force principles that are as different as a sai and a machete are from one another. They arose in entirely different fighting traditions in entirely different cultures, a thousand miles and a millennia apart. They have absolutely nothing in common with one another, other than (again) that they both involve chained segments of a blunt-force striking implements. One might as well be suggesting that Rock be brought back, but that instead a two-handed axe or mace, he be given a whip.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE (love, love, love) a three-section staff fighter. Or anyone sporting an actual weapon from antiquity instead of a floating wizard with out-of-thin-air energy weapons, or a super-saiyan emo who holds a ridiculous weapon in a way that (in the real world) could never generate enough force to reliably break an egg. But why would Project Soul throw out a legacy character's established moveset to do this, rather than just creating a new character, and why would we want them to?
 
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Rusted Blade said:
Beyond that, I just don't understand why a few fans here think this makes sense. There seems to be some sort of sentiment that his classic weapons (two nunchuks) are similar to a three-section-staff for some reason--I guess because of the superficial details that they involve lengths of rod attached by chains?.
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His nunchaku changed to a three section staff in Europe due to nunchakus being banned in the UK.
 
But that's literally just a cheap reskin/remodel. They changed nothing about his moveset. I'm not even sure how that was helpful, since they're still, by every sense of the word for the most part, nunchaku. Silly censorship. Same goes for Arthur, he's still very much a samurai, just not a Japanese samurai.
 
LisaK said:
His nunchaku changed to a three section staff in Europe due to nunchakus being banned in the UK.
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Ahhhh, is that where it comes from? Thanks for solving that mystery of where this asscoation of this weapon with Li Long comes from! (For me anyway). Still, it's worth noting that he's not actually fighting with a three-section-staff there: he's still wielding that thing exactly as he did his standard weapon in all other localizations of the game (which is to say, more or less as one uses nunchaku)--they simply awkwardly substituted the image of a (very small) three-section-staff over the nunchaku movement template.
 
Rusted Blade said:
Give me one ticket on the Li Long hype train in general for when that ride does depart, but this very clearly is not that moment: I just don't think there's any chance, based on the evidence we have before us, that Li Long is our Invitational reveal, or in Season Two to begin with. I think he's primed for Season Three, if there is one (and I think there will be) but no sooner, more's the pity.
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Never said it was likely, in fact I think the chances are very slim and improbable. Just pointed it as a hopeful possibility.

Rusted Blade said:
Now, don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE (love, love, love) a three-section staff fighter. Or anyone sporting an actual weapon from antiquity instead of a floating wizard with out-of-thin-air energy weapons, or a super-saiyan emo who holds a ridiculous weapon in a way that (in the real world) could never generate enough force to reliably break an egg. But why would Project Soul throw out a legacy character's established moveset to do this, rather than just creating a new character, and why would we want them to?
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Rock is an example of a character whose weapon changed. Hwang and Aeon are examples of characters whose weapon AND moveset changed. Seong Mi-na, Amy, and Cassandra are examples of characters whose moveset was reworked in SoulCalibur VI. It's not uncommon to change up a character.
 
artard4321 said:
Rock is an example of a character whose weapon changed. Hwang and Aeon are examples of characters whose weapon AND moveset changed. Seong Mi-na, Amy, and Cassandra are examples of characters whose moveset was reworked in SoulCalibur VI. It's not uncommon to change up a character.
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If you're gonna count Hwang as a weapon change, then you've gotta count Taki too. And ninja'd on the stream link. :sc2ass3:
 
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