Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

Dissidia said:
I'm really pissed now!


they couldn't even give us our own damn dlc at the end of our tournament! But they do it for dragonball!
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I have been checking back at YouTube for the past couple of hours and I saw this and thought, they have some nerve! But the fact that they updated the PSN store for us to find. It’s like they are punishing us for data mining the whole thing and are saying, you probably spied that PSN update. There is your announcement chumps!

And we are all Butt Hurt right now. Is that another jab at us??
 
HackNslash said:
Why would they add so much clones in that season pass?

Hwang AND Yun
Rock And Li long

Original weapons should be priority as there’s only so much difference you can make to those characters.
Cassandra and Amy are proof of that.
We can’t wait months and months like we have been doing for clone
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Cassandra and Amy are proof of that? I'm not the most experienced Cassandra but to my memory Cassandra was always vastly superior to Sophitia for brute force though I can't speak for her in detail and as someone who plays Amy, you couldn't be further from the truth.
I can play Raphael on a very base level with my knowledge of Amy, but nothing in depth. I mean hell, I barely even get his stances nowadays.
It sounds like a case of people slamming 6BBB and calling it clone without looking at what the characters actually do beyond the most simple of things.
Which hell, even in SC6 the most simple of things are quite different now.

I understand perhaps some fear that Cass wouldn't change enough though for the entry, but I can't really say its something I'm worried about. Amy even if she's considered bad is far from a clone and they went through the effort of preserving her moveset and recreating Viola's moves in a way that works for a Rapier, which in my eyes from Crystal ball to Rapier I find it hard to say Amy is in anyway proof of not being different enough.

Same goes for Yun/Hwang.
I personally had lots of fun with Hwang despite some similarities and moves at the times, but Yun always felt like a nuisance to get working for me, honestly even now, X feels a lot more close to home with Hwang than Yun to me at least.

Each to their own I suppose, but in SC6's case them being unique seems to be what I truly feel for better or worse.
 
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Kinda worried for the possibility of a SamSho crossover. It wouldn't at all carry the hype of drawing new blood from a popular mainstream franchise (as with literally every other guest in the series), and feels more like just shoving two underdog fighters together in the hope that players of one might check out the other. I'm not convinced that approach is the best thing for SC at this point, especially if SC sends no guest to SS in return. This whole arrangement just feels like an attempt to shill another fighter when really SCVI itself, after a very slim trickle of hype and leaks out the ass, could definitely use a more ambitious plan for future content.
 
BaiburuBurakku said:
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EVO blue balling aside for a moment, what are the chances of Bamco releasing a Soul Calibur anniversary collection? it seems that collections are becoming more prevalent nowadays. not long ago we had the SF anniversary collection and capcom beat em up bundle. we also got a Castlevania anniversary collection as well as an upcoming Contra anniversary collection. do you think a collection would be a wise business decision at this time for SC? i guess maybe Bamco doesn't have much faith in SC right now seeing as how the series has been on its last legs for a while now. probably isn't worth the resources at the moment. though if there was one in the works what games would be on it and which would have netplay?
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Such a collection is a longstanding dream of mine--even without online capability, it would simply be great to have all (or even just the majority) of titles in the series playable on one, modern console. But I would not advise getting your hopes up: the situation for Soulcalibur is not really even remotely comparable with that of Street Fighter: the former is a Triple-A title that is virtually synonymous with the fighting game genre, with each of its last few entries being absolute blockbusters. Furthermore, all of those games are 2D, which are easier to emulate on newer hardware without complications and thus require relatively less time to port in an acceptable state. On top of that, Capcom has long been in the habit of releasing its games in collections, while Namco has generally never explored the nostalgia market to that depth.

There's a number of other marketing, market-share, technical and pragmatic differentials between the two scenarios, but suffice to say in summary, I think your gut instinct analysis is correct here: this just doesn't make for a good cost-benefit analysis on Namco's part, and on top of that, as we have all come to accept over the years, SC is not at the top of Namco's list of priorities, especially this year when its resources are split a hundred different directions. This is another case of something I hope I could be proven wrong about, but honestly, I don't see it happening.

DanteSC3 said:
It seems far more likely to put Mitsurugi in SamSho than it does to put one of their characters in SoulCalibur VI.
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And neither scenario is remotely likely, imo, for numerous reasons. Vergeben really does have a knack for proving time and again how undiscerning/credulous the fanbase of these games are, and how readily people will pick up on the most obvious horseshit and start firing it back and forth, echo-chamber style. One little post and now every forum and every other social media thread with an interest in either franchise is treating this like it could really be a thing. Nevermind that Namco is struggling to get one last character out in a timely fashion to finish the first season, despite the fact that she's been in planning/development for ages, and we have no reason to anticipate any announcement regarding future content for the game at this event, let alone another guest character, who could have only have gone into development relatively recently if it were a thing... No, there is no SamShow guest coming to SCVI, and I'd be very, very surprised indeed to even learn of a guest appearance running in the opposite direction.
 
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Pretty sure the Samsho×SoulCalibur rumors were sparked by the twitter exchange between the two official accounts a while back. Verg probably remembers that and is using it as his attempt to get back in the limelight by making a "who could have guessed this" call with something he thinks could have been a hint that others might have forgotten, thus making him look credible should something actually happen. From his perspective, his reputation probably couldn't get much worse at this point, so he might as well play this card.

I probably could have phrased that better.

Anyway, I'm still upset about yesterday, so let's positive thinking.
 
Raregroove said:
Pretty sure the Samsho×SoulCalibur rumors were sparked by the twitter exchange between the two official accounts a while back. Verg probably remembers that and is using it as his attempt to get back in the limelight by making a "who could have guessed this" call with something he thinks could have been a hint that others might have forgotten, thus making him look credible should something actually happen. From his perspective, his reputation probably couldn't get much worse at this point, so he might as well play this card.

I probably could have phrased that better.

Anyway, I'm still upset about yesterday, so let's positive thinking.
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Word for word, this mirrors my own perspective on the matter. But the calculation he made there underscores just how poorly the guy understands the very industry he is pretending to be a quasi-insider to: there's no chance that a casual exchange like that was going to morph into a character at a stage of development capable of a reveal in such a short period of time.
 
Dissidia said:
I will never understand why some are so forgiving towards him
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I mean, I don't know there's anything really to forgive when it comes to that sort of person. We've all known that type of bullshitter in some context or another: anyone who buys into what he's selling is arguably much more responsible than the guy who's full of shit himself. There's always going to be people that pathetically desperate for attention (and some sort of status in their life) that they will pretend to have this sort of inside knowledge. The real problem is the explosion of people willing to accept such claims without due critical analysis of what they are hearing--particularly if its something they already wanted to hear. When it comes to recreational media in particular, people just take very little time to understand how the content they enjoy is produced. If not for that fact, the low-stakes 'leak' purveyor conman would be laughed off and promptly forgotten from the outset.

Anyway, at least the guy is practicing his craft in an area where it really could not be less consequential, unlike many of his bullshitter brethren, who get people riled up in much more meaningful (indeed, even dangerous) circumstances, these days. I feel the situation is more sad than aggravating--and to the extent it does get tedious, its more about people swallowing the claims up than the fact that someone decided to tell such petty lies: again, there's always going to be people who compulsively do that.
 
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