Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

I'm loving the way they split up the CaS pieces this time, rather than leaving everything as one giant undergarment coughcoughamy. The items themselves look really nice too, the armor break hair is so cute and I'm gonna use that dress for everything. Also I just noticed that the tiara is unisex, which is interesting.

And a funny thing, the name of Hilde's 7th weapon is Gae Derg and Moralltach, as Aiddon stated earlier, but I totally misread the katakana for it as... something else. lol
 
JohnMcKee said:
OMG boobies plate armor so unrealistic, killing the immersion I got with my lightning throwing Greek fighter, my soul-stealing wooden ninja, my 10 feet tall soulless golem and...

Guess you got it, moving on to something else (worth debating)?
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So, Hilde's effects are looking pretty cool right? I looked at them and squealed like the little girl I am.
 
JohnMcKee said:
I was quite amazed too! Her style seems more fluid than before, I'm really looking forward to playing her and her story!
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I'm curious as to what the story will be. Will we see durer? Maybe we'll have to contain George, or fight the phantoms/revenants of her mother or brother.
 
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any idea why they changed "character creation" to "creation parts set" ???
 
Hmm... not sure. Maybe a superficial change so the wording is more precise... ???
For a hot second, it gave me the weird impression that the creation parts set is only gonna be the one associated with the character. But that's my inner pessimist thinking. I hope they give us more CaS stuff, not exclusively tied to the character getting released.
@DanteSC3 My brain literally thought the opposite of yours xD
 
Alexandra said:
I wonder why her bonus outfit wasn’t included on the Soul Archive entry. Are Amy or Cassandra’s on there?
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Amy and Cassandra's extra items aren't listed on Soul Archive either. However, if I'm remembering things correctly, Amy's extra items were accessible in the game before Amy herself was if that indicates anything.

Maybe you get those items regardless of whether you own the Season Pass or not? Since I don't know anyone who doesn't own the SP, I can't really verify lol
 
Autumn said:
Amy and Cassandra's extra items aren't listed on Soul Archive either. However, if I'm remembering things correctly, Amy's extra items were accessible in the game before Amy herself was if that indicates anything.

Maybe you get those items regardless of whether you own the Season Pass or not? Since I don't know anyone who doesn't own the SP, I can't really verify lol
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I believe you’re correct! We had access to Cassandra’s SCIV 1p as soon as the patch came out the day before her release.
 
Ardenwolf said:
What it really comes down to is that, throughout the centuries men have expressed their sexuality through their armor, but women, now able to be represented as warriors are not allowed to express their sexuality through their armor the same as men, ironically because of the deluded idea that equal means androgyny.

A woman can both be a warrior and express their feminine sexuality. They are not required to look as men, nor are they required to give up the same right men have to express their sexuality through their armor.

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Men have been allowed to express their sexuality through armor for centuries, if one really wants to stand up for women's rights and equality, then the right way to do that is to allow women to choose to express their sexuality in the same way afforded to men throughout all these centuries, not to deny them the ability to do. There is nothing wrong with women, the female form, or the expression of it through various means.
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Dude, I really don't want to prolong this discussion, nor am I looking to insult you, but it has to be said, this is biggest and most poorly-considered non-sequitur in this discussion so far, which is saying something. We are not talking about an actual, living breathing human woman making her own choices here. We are talking about a character who was (given the dominance of men in character design, particularly in japan) almost certainly designed by a man, for an overwhelmingly male audience. Trying to turn this into a female autonomy issue when it's almost certain that no woman had any input on this is so backwards and ridiculous, I don't even know where to start--except to say that this is pretty par for the course when men talk about women's rights.

Look, if some woman wants to show up at ren-faire or comicon wearing breast armour that she designed, or which replicates some anime character design she likes, more power to her, whether she does it out of fandom or because she feels it is an empowering representation of her femininity--you're quite correct that this is her choice and that making fun of it in a fashion that is disproportionate to how one would mock a similar male design suggests a bias. But most of us laughing at boob plate would roll our eyes and shake our heads at least as much at a similar phallic accessory.

As for the historical context, there's another presumption in your argument (but tacitly asserted by others here previously) that I'm not sure holds water: if we'd had a more gender-equitable society all along, that women would have done all the same obnoxious things that men did. With regard to any given cultural phenomena, its possible, but far from certain and we cannot re-run history to find out. But I do believe that most women would be offended by the implication that, had they been more enfranchised in power during all of those millennia, their first order of business would have been to run around throwing fake tits all over things where they served no practical purpose, just because, as a historical matter, some men did this with dicks.

And the "some" is worth emphasizing there, because again (and I really don't know how many times this has to be pointed out to the Tit Plate Defense Brigade who are desperate to find some sort of historical analog for men, in order to excuse this silly design feature), but dicks on armour 1) were an exceedingly rare thing, 2) exclusively used by foppish elites on armour that was going nowhere near battle, and 3) were probably as widely ridiculed by the common soldier who might have seen it at the time as we are inclined to poke fun at it today.

The truth of the matter is, in our hypothetical, more gender equivalent alternate reality where more women were commonly soldiers during the last six hundred years, then yes, maybe we would have a few more instances of breasts on the armour of the wealthy (for the reasons sytus discusses above). But that doesn't mean people wouldn't still have mocked the practice, both as a historical matter or when it showed up in pop fantasy. Just as we mock phallic nonsense in character design. And I don't know about you, but I made a lot of jokes about how over-the-top Voldo's codpiece and hip thrusting were, back when it was novel to me. I don't anymore because, after nearly 25 years, its just old hat. Tit armour isn't exactly new to the genre, so I have a similar response to Hilde's variation on the theme--but it's not because it's any less silly than it clearly, absolutely is....

So please, let's try to have some perspective here: Hilde's boobplate is no more a feminist statement than Hooters is a feminist institution; it takes more than being supportive of the presence of tits to earn the accolade of being "body positive" and supportive of women's rights and interests.
 
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bails38 said:
Loving Hilde's new princess-warrior look. Fun fact (if it hasn't already been posted) - They have now assigned her with a city of birth within the Wolfkrone Kingdom, along with all the usual bio detail - "Stolzstadt, Kingdom of Wolfkrone" - it literally means Proud City in German. They also list her previously unmentioned mother (the Queen; Dietlinde) and brother (the prince, presumably younger than her; Alfred). Nice new detail!
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Clarification: Alfred was her older brother. He and Hilde's mother apparently died when she was young due to illness.
 
Slightly off topic and impossible to answer question: If Yun-Seong is the last slot on the dlc, does anyone picture him having grey as a prominent part of his color scheme? It could be leg/arm guards like I mentioned with Assassin. It would fit his more aggressive fighting style. But, also, I always pictured him with vibrant colors: red, green, even black mixed with other bright colors. Maybe he will have armor and bright colors? Or, will they redesign his Soul Calibur 2 debut outfit: mainly white.

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So Hilde has been announced in SCVI Season 2. I'm sorry I took the Steam Datamine for granted & didn't see a proper codename for Hilde. I was just over excited when I read some possible codenames for a rumored Season 2 as of January 2019. I was expecting Hilde would be in SCVI Season 3 if there is a S3. I just hope Hilde is properly balanced this time around because everyone knows she was the most broken newcomer of all time. SCIV could have been saved before SFIV & T6 came to consoles by fixing Hilde & Algol. SC:BD was a year too late & only on the PSP. In SCV 1.0, Hilde was perfectly fine. Then for some reason in SCV 1.02 buffed C2B to launch higher to make Hilde OP again with a semi-infinite.
 
Rusted Blade said:
Dude, I really don't want to prolong this discussion, nor am I looking to insult you, but it has to be said, this is biggest and most poorly-considered non-sequitur in this discussion so far, which is saying something. We are not talking about an actual, living breathing human woman making her own choices here. We are talking about a character who was (given the dominance of men in character design, particularly in japan) almost certainly designed by a man, for an overwhelmingly male audience. Trying to turn this into a female autonomy issue when it's almost certain that no woman had any input on this is so backwards and ridiculous, I don't even know where to start--except to say that this is pretty par for the course when men talk about women's rights.
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I don't want to talk much about this topic, but I just wanna quickly add that there are women at Project Soul who have done character designs. The SC5 artbook interviews 2 women who did a bunch of concepts for that game. One of the over-the-top, fan-service costumes in Lost Swords (the Taki one with superhero vibes) was designed by a woman (the same artist who designed Bayonetta).

It's hard to tell who did what in SC6. But based on the credits there are only two people credited as "Concept Artists". One of them is Kawano (the main illustrator for the series since SC2), and the other one is a woman (I don't recognize her name so I'm not familiar with her work). I'm willing to bet both did a lot of the character designs. We don't know who is responsible for what design, but at least it's certain this wasn't solely done by a team of only male artists.
 
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