Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

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It was explained on several occasions that it is not about boobs per se but about Hilde who in previous installments didn't had such applications as booby armor which in turn made her look more unique especially in contrast to the rest of the cast. It was also not about it being anything inherently bad by itself nor was it "objectification" but several people simply didn't liked that choice.
From that topic we came (huehue) to Setsu's boobs (and Hwang's boobs for that matter)
Personally I find it a good topic to go by
 
I think no matter what they do with Setsuka (in this game or the next) that they will probably keep her blonde and in a kimono of some multi coloration because I really doubt they'll want to reintroduce the character looking like Mary Poppins or the dreaded Patty Cakes
Not necessarily, Tira's hair and design are more similar to her SCIII 1P than her SCIV or SCV costumes.
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Of the characters not originally introduced by the 1583-1589 period this game takes place in, no one has gotten a full redesign. Hilde has gotten a palette swap but her costume is still mostly in line with her old look, but a bit more flashy. Cassandra's outfit is essentially just her two silhouettes (mini dress/leotard) combined into one. TaIim's shorts/bolero combo is reminiscent of her SCII 1P, but, like Hilde, just an elevated version of that. Amy's costume is the same silhouette and general concept as her SCIII costume. Raphael's new design takes a lot of cues from his SCII 2P. Zasalamel is the only outlier of this group but his SCIII 1P was incredibly plain.

Besides that, characters originally debuting by the end of SCI basically have new versions of their SCI 1Ps. Mitsurugi, Sophitia, Ivy, Nightmare, Siegfried, Taki, Kilik and Maxi come to mind immediately. Xianghua, Raphael, Cervantes, Seong Mi-na, Astaroth, and Voldo all had pretty simplistic if not outright boring designs in the SCI or SCII era so it makes sense they got the same treatment as Hilde is getting now. Of the whole cast of this game so far, the character with the most extensive design overhaul is Yoshimitsu.

My point in listing all this out is that they seem to be going for nostalgia in almost every character's aesthetics, from hair to makeup to armor.
 
Random Topic Question:

Although I’m not completely sure, it seems as though not many Soul Calibur fans liked the new generation that appeared in Soul Calibur V. Or, more so, people didn’t seem to like that they replaced past characters.

My question:

What will happen to those SCV characters now? They have animations, designs, stories built/present. Will their move sets only be seen 17 years after SCIV (when SCV starts)? I wish there was a way to reintroduce those characters with possibly different movesets/backgrounds earlier (while staying with the SCVI roster).

Example: Natsu appearing much earlier, giving Taki someone to be close to. She could use the Katana/Shuriken move-set from SC3. Just thinking out loud lol : ).
 
I think the best course of action is to give the unique movesets from SCV new characters to represent them or COMPLETELY rewrite the existing characters from SCV if/when we get to that point in the canon. Amy's Soul Chronicle has me wondering if we won't see Viola sooner rather than later.
 
Replacing the past characters seems to be what most people are upset about, so I'm not sure what the harm is in bringing them back along with the original cast still sticking around. Daishi especially seemed off-put by including older women, though Hilde got a pass I guess, that was his justification in cutting Taki and Xianghua, at the very least. I'm pretty sure that Okubo wouldn't do that. So I expect that when we get to that point of the story, those characters will be reintroduced and re-implemented, but we'll keep having the old cast too. Some people may cry clone, but I feel like SoulCalibur VI has more than proven itself at being able to distinguish between users of the same weapons, and Natsu and Xiba at least definitely had their own feel to their take on the styles, so much that they play very differently to Taki and Kilik. Patroklos was definitely his own, too, but not so much for Pyrrha... I think she'd need some work, as well as Leixia, to really set them apart. Those are the folks that need a gimmick, not Amy and Cassandra.
 
I think the best course of action is to give the unique movesets from SCV new characters to represent them or COMPLETELY rewrite the existing characters from SCV if/when we get to that point in the canon. Amy's Soul Chronicle has me wondering if we won't see Viola sooner rather than later.

Ohh, yeah, I could see them being given, partially, to a new character. I could see a complete rewrite too ( on some characters). Making Lexia and Xiba not Kilik and Xianghua’s children makes me sad though. Rewriting may be a little difficult. But, characters like Z.W.E.I, Viola, Natsu are a little more free because they aren’t the children of a current cast member ( like Patroklas and Pyrrha).

Also, I am curious about if Viola will appear earlier too. I think Project Soul could do it if they really wanted to. She is popular (according to the popularity poll).
 
Replacing the past characters seems to be what most people are upset about, so I'm not sure what the harm is in bringing them back along with the original cast still sticking around. Daishi especially seemed off-put by including older women, though Hilde got a pass I guess, that was his justification in cutting Taki and Xianghua, at the very least. I'm pretty sure that Okubo wouldn't do that. So I expect that when we get to that point of the story, those characters will be reintroduced and re-implemented, but we'll keep having the old cast too. Some people may cry clone, but I feel like SoulCalibur VI has more than proven itself at being able to distinguish between users of the same weapons, and Natsu and Xiba at least definitely had their own feel to their take on the styles, so much that they play very differently to Taki and Kilik. Patroklos was definitely his own, too, but not so much for Pyrrha... I think she'd need some work, as well as Leixia, to really set them apart. Those are the folks that need a gimmick, not Amy and Cassandra.

I think some SCV characters may be given completely new move-sets. Project Soul has done a great job (my opinion) making each character (including those who share a weapon) different. But, I have to admit, it would be slightly odd having four shield and sword users on the roster. There has to be a limit, right?

Also, I think what sparked my original question was the big time period between SCIV and SCV. I’m not sure how Project Soul will handle that period. I assume they won’t rush towards it. But, then, this means we really won’t see SCV characters for a long time.

Edit: Unless there is a rewrite/ move set transfer
 
What will happen to those SCV characters now?
I think at the moment the focus is on rewriting the past, so let's continue with short references, like Cassandra using phrases similar to Patroklos or her COLOR 2 that are identical to Pyrrha (2P) color..
Natsu appearing much earlier, giving Taki someone to be close to.
Natsu is 17 years old, meaning she was born at the end of SC 4 events, so the only way she could appear would be if they altered her age, which would be a horrible mistake..
She could use the Katana/Shuriken move-set from SC3.
Since she is Taki's apprentice, don't make much sense she appears with a weapon completely different from her mentor. You would change her gameplay completely, then we will have two Taki with different weapons which was not a good thing considering Patroklos and αPatroklos case. Kappa
So it would be better to create a character that uses this weapon or give to Natsu just a kunai or a similar weapon that could be adapted.
 
But, I have to admit, it would be slightly odd having four shield and sword users on the roster. There has to be a limit, right?
We've done it before, twice. SoulCalibur II on GameCube had Link, Cassandra, Sophitia, and Lizardmen. SoulCalibur III had Cassandra, Sophitia, Aeon, and Abelia. As long as they're all unique in some way, it's not really an impossibility. Aeon would go back to dual axes by then so that's minus one, and I doubt we keep Link/Abelia style. So it would be Cassandra, Sophitia, Patroklos, and Pyrrha, which Pyrrha could have an enrage Soul Charge like Kilik does to turn her into Pyrrha Omega to set her apart from Sophitia properly. Patroklos is unique enough as-is.

Also, I think what sparked my original question was the big time period between SCIV and SCV. I’m not sure how Project Soul will handle that period. I assume they won’t rush towards it. But, then, this means we really won’t see SCV characters for a long time.
I don't know about "for a long time". SoulCalibur VII could easily cover SoulCalibur II, SoulCalibur III, and SoulCalibur IV, considering all three of those games cover 1590-1591. The ending of that would be the interim between it and SoulCalibur V, which we don't have to blink through, but could live out in short stories like we have right now for the time between SoulBlade and SoulCalibur and the time between SoulCalibur and SoulCalibur II. Meaning the characters from SoulCalibur V could be reintroduced as the DLC for SoulCalibur VII, so it might not be as long as you'd think.
 
Natsu is 17 years old, meaning she was born at the end of SC 4 events, so the only way she could appear would be if they altered her age, which would be a horrible mistake..

Since she is Taki's apprentice, don't make much sense she appears with a weapon completely different from her mentor. You would change her gameplay completely, then we will have two Taki with different weapons which was not a good thing considering Patroklos and αPatroklos case. Kappa
So it would be better to create a character that uses this weapon or give to Natsu just a kunai or a similar weapon that could be adapted.

Oh,yes, I meant retconning Natsu’s (and possibly other SCV characters’) birthdate. To me, this doesn’t seem like a bad idea. I can’t think of any negatives at the moment.

For her weapon, I don’t think it is impossible for her to use a different weapon from her master. The Katana-Shuriken moveset uses a few teleportations (like Taki). Also (I’m throwing every idea out lol), maybe Taki knows how to use more than one weapon. Maybe she notices Natsu’s inclinations/tendencies don’t fit the daggers that she uses. So, she trains her in something else while molding in her more ninja esque moves. Im totally theorizing here haha : ).

Also, a new character could have the Katana-Shutiken move set ( like you mentioned). I’m just biased for Natsu lol.
 
I would honestly be okay with giving the SCV characters a second chance. They had some untapped potential inside of them, but it didn’t bare any fruit and ended up feeling half baked, with Patroklos and Pyrrha getting any attention at all. Leixia, Xiba, and Natsu were pretty under developed and we know very little about Viola (besides the Amy hints) and ZWEI (minus the Dante theory Kappa). This fresh start could be a good chance to take all seven of them and fix on where they all fell short in.
 
We've done it before, twice. SoulCalibur II on GameCube had Link, Cassandra, Sophitia, and Lizardmen. SoulCalibur III had Cassandra, Sophitia, Aeon, and Abelia. As long as they're all unique in some way, it's not really an impossibility. Aeon would go back to dual axes by then so that's minus one, and I doubt we keep Link/Abelia style. So it would be Cassandra, Sophitia, Patroklos, and Pyrrha, which Pyrrha could have an enrage Soul Charge like Kilik does to turn her into Pyrrha Omega to set her apart from Sophitia properly. Patroklos is unique enough as-is.


I think this is possible. It would allow the old and new generation to appear. But (sorry Dante lol), this feels like a SCV mistake (no offense to those who worked on SCV). I understand if the fourth sword & shield user is a guest/bonus character, but when all four are main roster characters it does seem to diminish the diversity of the roster (even if each of the four fight differently). This seems slightly more troubling when we consider all of the other descendants/ relatives / students of other characters that could appear.

Meaning the characters from SoulCalibur V could be reintroduced as the DLC for SoulCalibur VII, so it might not be as long as you'd think.

I wouldn’t mind having/using these characters earlier. But, getting to the end of SCIV (after the reboot) and then jumping to SCV seems like an unexpected decision (to me) Like @LisaK mentioned, it seems like Project Soul really wants to spend more time with these characters. Going to SCV’s story, through small story cuts, seems (to me) a little fast. But, anything’s possible too! Maybe SCVII will be handled so well that going back to SCV won’t seem so out of place.
 
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What will happen to those SCV characters now? They have animations, designs, stories built/present. Will their move sets only be seen 17 years after SCIV (when SCV starts)? I wish there was a way to reintroduce those characters with possibly different movesets/backgrounds earlier (while staying with the SCVI roster).

If they in the future wished to bring them back with completely different styles I'd honestly be fine so long as we still are not sacrificing the old cast.

Though I'm fine with another chance for them, considering SC5 was botched anyway and no one really got to shine. If they got new moves/weapons and things adapted to them familiar to their specific incarnation in SC5 I think it could be interesting, just no replacing.
Speaking of which give me Viola/Zwei/Damp any day.


I'm hoping if we have to have Patroklos and Pyrrha back eventually we at least get this design in some form for Pat

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This is actually an awesome design. I'd like his 2P and this outfit to have been in SC5, he looks cool like this.
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