1.03 Tier List Discussion (aka Argument)

[Dullyanna]

Demarcus, tiers have nothing to do with homosexuality.

 

[JetSetDizzy]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)Hilde
7)Cassandra
8)Ivy
9)Starkiller
10)Xianghua
11)Amy
12)Astaroth
13)Cervantes
14)Sophitia
15)Tira
16)Vader
17)Raphael
18)Siegfried
19)Mina
20)Yunsung
21)Taki
22)Mitsurugi
23)Lizardman
24)Nightmare
25)Zasalamel
26)Talim
27)Rock
28)Maxi
29)Yoda

Tira above Misturugi?

 

[farranpoison]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)Hilde
7)Cassandra
8)Ivy
9)Starkiller
10)Xianghua
11)Amy
12)Astaroth
13)Cervantes
14)Sophitia
15)Tira
16)Vader
17)Raphael
18)Siegfried
19)Mina
20)Yunsung
21)Taki
22)Mitsurugi
23)Lizardman
24)Nightmare
25)Zasalamel
26)Talim
27)Rock
28)Maxi
29)Yoda

Whoa, hold on there. Why is Lizardman so low? And Starkiller is... above X and Amy? Something's not right here... explanations?

 

[Impending_Doom66]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)Hilde
7)Cassandra
8)Ivy
9)Starkiller
10)Xianghua
11)Amy
12)Astaroth
13)Cervantes
14)Sophitia
15)Tira
16)Vader
17)Raphael
18)Siegfried
19)Mina
20)Yunsung
21)Taki
22)Mitsurugi
23)Lizardman
24)Nightmare
25)Zasalamel
26)Talim
27)Rock
28)Maxi
29)Yoda

Wow Angrel just wow. At first it didn't look to bad until I hit the halfway mark. How is Mina that high? IMO the bottom five can't be disputed only their positions. Those five are Zas, Talim, Rock, Mina, and Yoda. Not gonna comment on the rest but I think the bottom five are Rock, Mina, Zas, Talim, and Yoda in that order (yes I have come to the light about Talim Jaxel).

 

[kPc]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)cass
7)ivy
8)amy
9)sophie
10)Lizardman
11)Siegfried
12)X
13)Cervantes
14)Hilde
15)Taki
16)Mitsu
17)Vader
18)Asta
19)Maxi
20)Yunsung
21)Starkiller
22)Ralph
23)Tira
24)Mina
25)Nightmare
26)Talim
27)Zas
28)Rock
29)Yoda

Fixed.....somewhat

 

[becky]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)Hilde
7)Cassandra
8)Ivy
9)Starkiller
10)Xianghua
11)Amy
12)Astaroth
13)Cervantes
14)Sophitia
15)Tira
16)Vader
17)Raphael
18)Siegfried
19)Mina
20)Yunsung
21)Taki
22)Mitsurugi
23)Lizardman
24)Nightmare
25)Zasalamel
26)Talim
27)Rock
28)Maxi
29)Yoda

i'm no expert, but that looks tierrably wrong to me.

har har har.

 

[ChaCha]

These threads as usual are just filled with bias, non-tested theory fighter conjecture bull shit.

I want someone right now to explain to me how Tira is better than Nightmare, Talim or Zas, heck EVEN ROCK!

All I want is a real explaination to how you arrived at these ideas!


cha cha

 

[Promiethius]

Tira is safer than nightmare, talim, and Zas. I'm sure you know that cha cha. However, I think that tier list looks completely wrong. LOL. There should be an official tierlist by now though...cause shits obvious about what characters are the bread winners.

I always go by top three man. Which I still think is:

1. Hilde
2. Voldo
3. Kilik
( Followed by the whoreish sisters and Amy )

 

[ShadowFox]

These threads as usual are just filled with bias, non-tested theory fighter conjecture bull shit.

I want someone right now to explain to me how Tira is better than Nightmare, Talim or Zas, heck EVEN ROCK!

All I want is a real explaination to how you arrived at these ideas!


cha cha

You and I both know the answer to that.

Its MAGIC!

 

[Dullyanna]

1)Kilik
2)Setsuka
3)Voldo
4)Algol
5)Yoshimitsu
6)Hilde
7)Cassandra
8)Ivy
9)Starkiller
10)Xianghua
11)Amy
12)Astaroth
13)Cervantes
14)Sophitia
15)Tira
16)Vader
17)Raphael
18)Siegfried
19)Mina
20)Yunsung
21)Taki
22)Mitsurugi
23)Lizardman
24)Nightmare
25)Zasalamel
26)Talim
27)Rock
28)Maxi
29)Yoda

OK, this thing has been haunting me for a day now, and it's cursed my dreams as well. How'd you seriously come up with this?

 

[mrcfkane]

all i know is rock, vader and yoda suck...everybody else could be nasty in the hands of the right player

 

[RiBu]

IDK bout Vader being that bad. . .just it seems he has some hella bad match-ups

Looking at you Starkiller

 

[Tiamat]

Vader still has a low tier vibe to him even with good okizeme and soul gauge damage. His speed is still a problem. 1BA second hit being duckable even if it hits really sucks.

 

[BlackMambaMoan]

Tira is just really bad....

 

[Angrel-San]

You and I both know the answer to that.

Its MAGIC!

Right...magic.

 

[TasteTheRainbow]

We really really need to get working on a japanese style matchup chart. I'd be up for gathering the data but I'm a little busy right now :/

 

[Karama]

Zasalamel low tier? Yeah right...

Zas has little going for him other than reach and ring outs

 

[Tiamat]

Tira is just really bad....

why is that?

 

[Sporko]

You know, a few months back I was hyped about just how good Voldo was in IV. That freak has been my main ever since I got serious about Soul Cal back in II (well, I suppose I wasn't serious about competitiveness, just about enjoying the game back then). I never paid much attention to tiers but from my understanding he was never bad but was always mid or upper mid.

I just hope I don't see my favorite gimp being a flavor of the month/year/game/whatever character. I can't really say shit because I don't know how many of these people have mained him prior to IV but there's gotta be 6 or 7 people who main him at Jaxel's tourneys alone.

I enjoyed it more when he was playable, usable, but scarcely seen.

That being said, I would normally say take whatever I say with a grain of salt (since I only started paying attention to the Soul Calibur tournament scene for the past 3 or 4 months) but since I'm speaking out my ass with absolutely no prior knowledge of Voldo's tournament precedents prior to IV, this spur of the moment quasi-ranting diatribe probably isn't worth the aforementioned salt.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

I still stand by Hilde being the top. I feel a Balrog/Bison vibe coming from her. Maybe I'm just paranoid.