Dullyanna
[10] Knight
Yeah, but... People can't do that, and that's what really matters. So you can't just step Nighty's WS moves, unless you masterfully bait the WS A and block.
Nightmare Web Theater.
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Tiamat
[11] Champion
cupui: how can siegfried punish nightmare's 3B on guard? is he only using 3?
man what the hell is up with the video embedding, I wonder what happened...
Cupui
[09] Warrior
Tiamat :
Ups... sorry I mean 3
usually he only use 3
And I don't know if sieg can't punish night 3B
I'll tell him later
THX again
Ups... sorry I mean 3
usually he only use 3
And I don't know if sieg can't punish night 3B
I'll tell him later
THX again
Tiamat
[11] Champion
yeah sieg should not be able to punish regular 3B
after 3B hits you can mixup 1A tech trap with 44BB
always good to see vids from you guys
after 3B hits you can mixup 1A tech trap with 44BB
always good to see vids from you guys
GynormousFish
[09] Warrior
Does anyone else get assloads of lag when trying to play the embedded videos in this thread?
Cupui
[09] Warrior
yes it's true
that's why our mod hate video embedding so much ;P
that's why our mod hate video embedding so much ;P
Schneider-X
[11] Champion
here's some new NM vids from Gnouz. The first vid against dan was well played imo. Haven't seen the rest.
Keev(NM) vs Dan(Sieg, Sophi)
Keev(NM) vs Cdric(Mitsu)
Keev(NM) vs Saitoh(Asta)
Keev(NM) vs Dan(Sieg, Sophi)
Keev(NM) vs Cdric(Mitsu)
Keev(NM) vs Saitoh(Asta)
Tiamat
[11] Champion
I've only watched the first one for now, posted a comment
GynormousFish
[09] Warrior
Keev has a pretty good NM.
Tiamat
[11] Champion
I think he is more than just "pretty good"! thank you for posting the links schneider, I will look at others tomorrow
LAU
[09] Warrior
hate to say it...
but the french needs to work on their anti-NM
Keev is good at NM but the others needs to stop looking down on NM and do their homework properly...
here's some suggestion for other characters since it just happens they play the 3 of the characters i'm MOST familiar with.
Sieg: anytime you block anything you should 3... GS A/NSS K are both 3 punishable... you don't do that.. you lose.... against stance mixups... 3A kills GS 3B kills NSS... it's much more indepth than that.. but you can definately find more information about this if you look for it.. (i wrote out all the details.)
Mitsu: anytime you block something and you suspect the opponent goes into GS transition.. that's a free 2kB for you...
Asta: you pretty much did most stuff right.. so not much to comment here.. except bullrush despite GS A can beat it.. charged bullrush kills GS A for free...
to all three of you: you guys don't duck GS KK... and despite NM is tech trap king if he starts doing 44B you must try to block it... best way after NSS A+B is to wait till last second and press g
-LAU
but the french needs to work on their anti-NM
Keev is good at NM but the others needs to stop looking down on NM and do their homework properly...
here's some suggestion for other characters since it just happens they play the 3 of the characters i'm MOST familiar with.
Sieg: anytime you block anything you should 3... GS A/NSS K are both 3 punishable... you don't do that.. you lose.... against stance mixups... 3A kills GS 3B kills NSS... it's much more indepth than that.. but you can definately find more information about this if you look for it.. (i wrote out all the details.)
Mitsu: anytime you block something and you suspect the opponent goes into GS transition.. that's a free 2kB for you...
Asta: you pretty much did most stuff right.. so not much to comment here.. except bullrush despite GS A can beat it.. charged bullrush kills GS A for free...
to all three of you: you guys don't duck GS KK... and despite NM is tech trap king if he starts doing 44B you must try to block it... best way after NSS A+B is to wait till last second and press g
-LAU
PANDA
[13] Hero
who? may i fight him?
IkI
[08] Mercenary
I guess not. He's a frenchy on xbok.
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100% agree with LAU. The others players just looked at him during his stances. No CH o_O. You do that, it's a one way fight. Only asta understood, hopefully.
GynormousFish
[09] Warrior
Check like 7 or so posts above to watch his vids. His opponents are kind of lacking in skill level, but he has a lot of potential to be better by playing some people who know how to fight NM properly. Still good though.
Saitoh
[10] Knight
Hi Lau ! :)
Thanks for the tips !
Fact is we (I can only talk for DTN and me) already knew about GS KK and 44BB ... guess we didn't train enough on it haha
Honestly i totally forgot about 44BB during the matchs ... for GS KK, i know it but didn't fight enough nightmare to do it consistently and "naturally" yet (almost never played SC3 seriously so i'm not used to it)
You're right about GS A, but it's not that easy for him to stuff bullrush with it, and it's rarely on CH, so the risk / reward is very much in favor of bullrush, considering it beat every others options NM got ... plus i got stuffed only twice by it, one bullrush and one 6K, never on CH ... third time he tried it and i sensed it ... i did the charged version and he never tried it again :p
But honestly i feel the matchup is largely in Astaroth's favor ... bullrush is almost a non-brainer here in almost all situations, it's a bit dumb ... wont complain about it though ... :p
Props to keev for keeping his NM ... he can play others chars but tried his best with his main !
Thanks for the tips !
Fact is we (I can only talk for DTN and me) already knew about GS KK and 44BB ... guess we didn't train enough on it haha
Honestly i totally forgot about 44BB during the matchs ... for GS KK, i know it but didn't fight enough nightmare to do it consistently and "naturally" yet (almost never played SC3 seriously so i'm not used to it)
You're right about GS A, but it's not that easy for him to stuff bullrush with it, and it's rarely on CH, so the risk / reward is very much in favor of bullrush, considering it beat every others options NM got ... plus i got stuffed only twice by it, one bullrush and one 6K, never on CH ... third time he tried it and i sensed it ... i did the charged version and he never tried it again :p
But honestly i feel the matchup is largely in Astaroth's favor ... bullrush is almost a non-brainer here in almost all situations, it's a bit dumb ... wont complain about it though ... :p
Props to keev for keeping his NM ... he can play others chars but tried his best with his main !
Schneider-X
[11] Champion
So the tournament I went to a couple weeks back posted the SCIV matches, and I was in some of them =D
Schneider-X vs ShinAkuma
Kang vs Schneider-X
srf3po vs Schneider-X
I watched them, and I think there's alot I can improve on from what I saw here, though not being able to use my own sixaxis made my execution pretty bad.... Oh well, it was my first tournament too so I was nervous and a bit reckless at first. Seeing how I always started the round attacking...
Advice on how to improve my game is appreciated. Also I know the opponents weren't the highest caliber, since the tournament was mainly a 2D fighters tournament with SC thrown in, it was still good fun.
Schneider-X vs ShinAkuma
Kang vs Schneider-X
srf3po vs Schneider-X
I watched them, and I think there's alot I can improve on from what I saw here, though not being able to use my own sixaxis made my execution pretty bad.... Oh well, it was my first tournament too so I was nervous and a bit reckless at first. Seeing how I always started the round attacking...
Advice on how to improve my game is appreciated. Also I know the opponents weren't the highest caliber, since the tournament was mainly a 2D fighters tournament with SC thrown in, it was still good fun.
LAU
[09] Warrior
Hi Saitoh! =D
I think the match up with NM vs Asta is quite even.. imo... NM's GS transition isn't TOTALLY useless against Asta... if he uses 66K6 and 66K (no GS) it'll give asta a lot of trouble... other moves that are a bitch to Asta includes 11K and NSS stance in general... Asta also can't really punish 3B, and since asta's step kinda sucks 3B becomes semi-abusable vs Asta along with NSS pressuring strategy.
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Schneider-X:
saw your vids
1st thing before i start... did you just win the above tournament?!?!?! if so...
Congratulations!!!
and how come you don't post the results on the Tournament aftermath? It doesn't matter if the tournament is big or small or how well-known the player is or not... the truth is.. it's a tourney. So don't feel bad posting it.. plus we need to write one up for NM victory anyways... lol
I think as for your vids... like MOST NM matches I've seen the opponent doesn't have strong anti-NM
but here's advice for you.
Despite winning, I think there's a couple of stuff you can work on.
1) You don't step at all.
2) You seem to lack some anti-character strategies...
3) You gotta work on your execution... FC A+G -> 33B sometimes turned into 3B and i know that wasn't intentional.... as well as 66B -> 33B is definately needed especially when 66B hits far. there's other combos but i think you get the point.
4) You seem to hate tech traps other than FC A+G -> 33B... you should try more NSS A+B -> 66B even if they don't tech the damage is similar to 2A+B and the wakeup isn't that bad either...
but in general I like it, and congrats again :)
-LAU
I think the match up with NM vs Asta is quite even.. imo... NM's GS transition isn't TOTALLY useless against Asta... if he uses 66K6 and 66K (no GS) it'll give asta a lot of trouble... other moves that are a bitch to Asta includes 11K and NSS stance in general... Asta also can't really punish 3B, and since asta's step kinda sucks 3B becomes semi-abusable vs Asta along with NSS pressuring strategy.
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Schneider-X:
saw your vids
1st thing before i start... did you just win the above tournament?!?!?! if so...
Congratulations!!!
and how come you don't post the results on the Tournament aftermath? It doesn't matter if the tournament is big or small or how well-known the player is or not... the truth is.. it's a tourney. So don't feel bad posting it.. plus we need to write one up for NM victory anyways... lol
I think as for your vids... like MOST NM matches I've seen the opponent doesn't have strong anti-NM
but here's advice for you.
Despite winning, I think there's a couple of stuff you can work on.
1) You don't step at all.
2) You seem to lack some anti-character strategies...
3) You gotta work on your execution... FC A+G -> 33B sometimes turned into 3B and i know that wasn't intentional.... as well as 66B -> 33B is definately needed especially when 66B hits far. there's other combos but i think you get the point.
4) You seem to hate tech traps other than FC A+G -> 33B... you should try more NSS A+B -> 66B even if they don't tech the damage is similar to 2A+B and the wakeup isn't that bad either...
but in general I like it, and congrats again :)
-LAU
Cupui
[09] Warrior
I only saw the first video
my connection is very slow lately
will see the other later
I don't have an experience with a tournament
but usually people on tournament generally play safe and simple
so avoid using an unsafe move like 1B, 44BB....etc
need to add GS mix up on it. like 236 > throw , 236 > WS B. etc....
need to throw and agA more... I think.
NM throw range is really good so make use of it.
on long range using agA is also good
adding 3K and 11K for mid poke will be good
Looks like both of you nervous but you've done well on tournament
I think that's all :)
my connection is very slow lately
will see the other later
I don't have an experience with a tournament
but usually people on tournament generally play safe and simple
so avoid using an unsafe move like 1B, 44BB....etc
need to add GS mix up on it. like 236 > throw , 236 > WS B. etc....
need to throw and agA more... I think.
NM throw range is really good so make use of it.
on long range using agA is also good
adding 3K and 11K for mid poke will be good
Looks like both of you nervous but you've done well on tournament
I think that's all :)
GynormousFish
[09] Warrior
Schneider-X: Well, I guess I have a couple things to say. I saw a couple times you pulled out random moves when you were nowhere near close to your opponent. In the second vid you a:G+A'd and it was punished. Also saw you pull out 88B nowhere close to the guy. I can understand that though, I used to do it too out of fear of being rushed and everything. Oh, and NEVER use 4A+B. It's HORRIBLE. But don't take my word for it, I'm just a noob. :)
Oh, and another thing, don't try to rush in with a GS A+B, it is very punishable on block. I don't know the frame specs on block but I know you can get own3d after attempting such a thing.
Oh, and another thing, don't try to rush in with a GS A+B, it is very punishable on block. I don't know the frame specs on block but I know you can get own3d after attempting such a thing.
microgamer
[10] Knight
Congrats yo. I personally would've used WS B more after blocking a low or ducking a throw. That's about all I can contribute, everything else was already said. Congrats again on the tourney win.