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ZDamned said:
I think the move is just as useful as SW 1A. THE HIGH!
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sounds like you're trying to mock me?

Oh well. While its true that they are both high, anyone with even a cursory knowledge of how this game works SHOULD be able to tell how very different the moves are.

SW 1A is Ivys fastest move out of all of her stances. It can punish some things that she wouldn't normally be able to punish. It also produces a stun on hit for lots of nice advantage. It pushes out a fair ammount on block. Primary use is punishing and interrupting. Not to be spammed, but used correctly, very strong

WP 214 A is one of ivys slowest moves. She does tech crouch while she 'charges' this UB, although there is enough time for an opponent to completely whiff even the slowest of highs, and still react and crouch. Using this move leaves you so terribly open for punishment. Its one of the worst moves in the entire game. NEVER EVER use it, unless of courese you find a way to guarantee it, but good luck with that.

I weep for you if you use this move.
 
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Di_PL said:
If I'm not wrong, SW 1A is a very quick high attack. If so, then it is actually useful. It's Ivy's quickest move so it's used for punishing.
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It's great for punishing while your back is to a wall on someone with no tech crouch every move who is beating you down if that is what you define "GREAT" by.

The range is so horrid on that move, that in every situation, it's better to use 4b as her punisher/interrupt, and even more useful to just use 6B! It's better in every way, with a little more range than 1A, and it gives Options! Like CS, or Full Crouch 3B.
 
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SW 4B won't give you KND. Wouldn't you like to put Astaroth on the ground having blocked his bullrush and force him to get up using SW 3B?
 
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ZDamned said:
It's great for punishing while your back is to a wall on someone with no tech crouch every move who is beating you down if that is what you define "GREAT" by.

The range is so horrid on that move, that in every situation, it's better to use 4b as her punisher/interrupt, and even more useful to just use 6B! It's better in every way, with a little more range than 1A, and it gives Options! Like CS, or Full Crouch 3B.
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the range isn't THAT bad. Its definitely a close range move, with specific applications. While 6B is a good move, its not better in every way. It doesn't ground and is slower.


Di_PL said:
SW 4B won't give you KND. Wouldn't you like to put Astaroth on the ground having blocked his bullrush and force him to get up using SW 3B?
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this
 
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thechump said:
Cool stuff. I need to work SW 1A into my repertoire. the 214A thing is more of a joke move I use on my roommate (people get really pissed when they fall for it). I've never actually tried to play this game competitively yet so all I know is what i read here. Also, I can't do CS or SS, so that whole part of Ivy doesn't work for me.
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Heh, yeah, its occasionally fun to try and mess around with moves like that. CS and SS are less important in this game IMO, being they can be broken so easily, but they're still nice.

core_brain said:
Hello new member here, I'm still adjusting to sc4 Ivy so I'll say:

SC2 Ivy> SC4 Ivy > SC3 Ivy
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Welcome! :) I personally think that SC4 ivy > SC2 Ivy but its all good. Lots of people prefer her as she was in SC2, and I think that at one point I was the same, but stance dancing can be TOO much fun. Pulling off a big flashy impressive setup on someone using 2 or 3 stances sure feels flashy, at least to me. I also think that SC4 ivy is the 'best' shes ever been.

thechump said:
Agreed. I miss the stance where she spins her whip.
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agreed :(
 
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So, how is everyone doing against the people they've been fighting? Sadly, my Ivy win ratio has gotten pretty low. I'm down to <25% right now against my friends who play as Taki, Amy, and Yoshimitsu. They'll even throw in characters they don't know how to use just to demoralize me, lol. Mitsurugi is my current nemesis (b,b = dead ivy). Then i just mess around with Sophie and get more like a 50% win ratio. I'm pretty frustrated at Ivy right now
 
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Welcome! :) I personally think that SC4 ivy > SC2 Ivy but its all good. Lots of people prefer her as she was in SC2, and I think that at one point I was the same, but stance dancing can be TOO much fun. Pulling off a big flashy impressive setup on someone using 2 or 3 stances sure feels flashy, at least to me. I also think that SC4 ivy is the 'best' shes ever been.
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I agree. Thinking back SC2 dmg was stupid. I always thought of Ivy powerful without C throws. SC4 Ivy is fun fun.

1A as a punisher, gotta use it and see how it goes. SW is looking solid.
 
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I've seen in videos CL A+B (God Whisper I think its called) causing a stun instead of juggling but I can't seem to get it on NH or CH. How is this done
 
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ha, you wouldent believe how solid SW is even if I told you. It's the kind of thing ya need a video of or it's hard to picture how well it all pulls together. I have a tourney this weekend that I'll be playing a lot of ivy in, so hopefully I'll get some vids off of that.

I personally think SW ivys best stance, and it makes her top of top tier. I also promise that I'm not retarted and have good reasons for saying/thinking this
 
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also, a good addition to CL a+b, A+k is CL a+b , b+k. It stops the string after the first hit and leaves ivy in crouch at the opponents feet in SW, which is the best situation she can be put in for pressure IMO.
 
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BLDave said:
I personally think SW ivys best stance, and it makes her top of top tier. I also promise that I'm not retarted and have good reasons for saying/thinking this
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I agree. From SW she has:
- her best punisher (1A)
- 2A
- 3B
- 22K
- WS B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- FC 3B
- 6
- A+B~A+B_[A+B]

Her other stances aren't useless but SW seems to be the best.


core_brain said:
Thank you. Are you the Same Di from calibur forums if so, I am Honored
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Yes, I'm the same guy. But you're the 2nd person behaving like this to my post(s) here. What's the reason? I'm not anyone special ;)
 
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BLDave said:
also, a good addition to CL a+b, A+k is CL a+b , b+k. It stops the string after the first hit and leaves ivy in crouch at the opponents feet in SW, which is the best situation she can be put in for pressure IMO.
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I am liking the sound of that, have to try it.


To Di:

I used to lurk on the Ivy boards at calibur forums and I know your a regular participant in the discussions there
 
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hi guys! i need your help.

i'm learning Ivy and i was trying this not listed move:

CL 6A, A+K

which does the initial 6A and then the same whip combo as CL WS AA or WP 6AA.

but there is a problem.....if i do this move (which put you to WS) and then turn back manually to CL (B+K) and i repeat this move, the game will not perform it, but instead it will perform CL 6A,K (the slash & kick combo).....

but if before repeating this move for 2 times in a row, i'll perform something else....like a simple WP AA or BB etc.....and try this move again, it will work again!!!

why this strange thing? seems like it doesn't allow you to perform it 2 times in a row....you first need another move to "reset" this limit...

am i correct or wrong? is there an explanation for this? i've tried 20 times and there is no way to perform it 2 times in a row....it will always perform the 6AK slash&kick move instead :(:(:(

help!

tnx
 
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do you mean the Serpent Embrace A:236A ????
yesterday i found a good method.....listen:

start pressing 2A instead of A....then immediatly do 36A .........so 2A, 36A movement........the game will recognize your initial 2 even during initial A and so you get the correct Just Frame timing.......it works to me almost everytime :D
 
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hi guys.....2 rapid questions please:

1) is SW 3A, 3B a Guaranteed Combo? i mean....is the 3A a shakable stun or unshakable stun?

2) is CL 6A,K, 4B (enemy turning 360° upside down :D :D :D) a Guaranteed Combo? i mean...is the stun from 6A,K shakable or unshakable?

tnx :D
 
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HitsugayaT said:
do you mean the Serpent Embrace A:236A ????
yesterday i found a good method.....listen:

start pressing 2A instead of A....then immediatly do 36A .........so 2A, 36A movement........the game will recognize your initial 2 even during initial A and so you get the correct Just Frame timing.......it works to me almost everytime :D
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Wow!!! That's a great trick. I can finally use this move properly now.
 
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HitsugayaT said:
hi guys.....2 rapid questions please:

1) is SW 3A, 3B a Guaranteed Combo? i mean....is the 3A a shakable stun or unshakable stun?

2) is CL 6A,K, 4B (enemy turning 360° upside down :D :D :D) a Guaranteed Combo? i mean...is the stun from 6A,K shakable or unshakable?

tnx :D
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Both of those stuns should be shakable. I tried it last night against someone who had an arcade stick and I failed miserably.
 
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