Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

[MTK]

Just found out that draws happen now if both players ring out at the same time!

What's the odds of both ring out at the same time? It's already rare for a draw the old fashion way.

 

[LisaK]

@Norik which characters you used in the beta? Since I joined last year I've never seen you talking about X or Y, so I was curious.

 

[UKStormDragon]

Dude, PSY and I only pointed things out about the character (in which I agree with his points and he may not agree with mine), don't take personally just because you like her.

Not taking personally man. Sorry if it came off that way, but you can take what (mainly) Psy said and spin that as someone believing they've already come up with a final verdict which can be where the tone came off a bit well off. Not saying it is, but I'm only responding with what I believe, same thing I would say for any character/system in any game. The only thing I'll take personally is the assumption that you have that the only reason I am saying anything is because I like the character (and that's really only cause its late and I need to sleep). This is my design background talking, it just so happens that I also like the character as well.

 

[Norik]

@Norik which characters you used in the beta? Since I joined last year I've never seen you talking about X or Y, so I was curious.

I’ve been trying them all out. Mostly Sophitia and Nightmare, but I’ve also played Ivy, Siegfried, Tira, and Yoshimitsu a fair amount.

 

[Eji1700]

Game looks great, as a PC player i'm left on the sidelines though. Anyone got some links to higher level footage(really just anyone who at least knows the basics of their character)? I'm watching max right now, but i'd like to see more of the cast.

 

[Alexandra]

What's the odds of both ring out at the same time? It's already rare for a draw the old fashion way.

I don't know, but I did it on the desert stage with Sophitia's 2B K

 

[AMillionHP]

Someone double rung me out, i cant remember who or what they used.

Christ i need training mode, i am doing very, very poorly at this game.
Lag isn't too bad most of the time.
I'm also getting matches very quickly.
I'm wondering if people's issues earlier were because the beta had just opened and there wasn't anyone on.

 

[PlatinumPippa]

Just the suspicious lack of CaS parts is a bit troubling. But hey, 100 pieces are going to be DLC even if they might be returning items missing from the base game.

We have not seen any of the unlockables yet, so we can't say anything about that. The lack of hit effects is enough proof that there will be unlocks.

 

[Robert_J_King]

We have not seen any of the unlockables yet, so we can't say anything about that. The lack of hit effects is enough proof that there will be unlocks.

Now that you mention it, the cute pack and the comic pack aren't there.

 

[GroovyValentine]

Quick Talim move question, what is that really strong wind bazooka move? Where she just goes BLAM and hits you with a big wind blast? But not her Critical Edge R2 move, it seems to be a regular really strong move like those firey ones Ivy and others have. I notice looking at a few moves online that Talim has a few stances/modes, like Wind Charmer and Wind Fury, so maybe she has to do another move prior to this really strong move?

I ask just because me and my friend are here playing the beta, and notice that's one of the most badass moves we've faced. Seems to have a pretty quick startup and does tons of damage, seemingly about as much or more than her fancy cinematic Critical Edge super move.

I'll post more in-depth stuff in the character threads though, thanks!

 

[JohnMcKee]

We have not seen any of the unlockables yet, so we can't say anything about that. The lack of hit effects is enough proof that there will be unlocks.

Why would it be a proof? It might only mean the effects were cut and nothing else.

 

[Lamblyt3]

Quick Talim move question, what is that really strong wind bazooka move? Where she just goes BLAM and hits you with a big wind blast? But not her Critical Edge R2 move, it seems to be a regular really strong move like those firey ones Ivy and others have. I notice looking at a few moves online that Talim has a few stances/modes, like Wind Charmer and Wind Fury, so maybe she has to do another move prior to this really strong move?

I ask just because me and my friend are here playing the beta, and notice that's one of the most badass moves we've faced. Seems to have a pretty quick startup and does tons of damage, seemingly about as much or more than her fancy cinematic Critical Edge super move.

I'll post more in-depth stuff in the character threads though, thanks!

-(during wind fury/air rage)~ B:B(hit/block)
That move is called panay huriccane.

 

[Ukkesh]

I had almost no trouble finding matches on XL when set to all regions, here in Germany (US account). Other than maybe 3 periods of time (length varied) where I couldn't find a match, most I found in 30sec or less. Often, if it didn't find a match quickly, the network would error out back to rank select.
I played for nearly 7hrs, I think. Around 10-15 matches were lagging significantly. Only disconnected about 3 times during match, and 2 before the VS screen.

Waiting 30min to match sounds crazy from what I experienced.

The gameplay and visual details are beautiful. I swooned seeing some of new stuff in Tira's arsenal. Also, don't know if anyone else noticed, but it seems you can't mood change post round as Tira anymore. It hurts, I want to see Gloomy more often. ;-;

Did anyone see me? Mostly ran around as Sophitia and Tira.

Yeah, I think we matched up twice. You trashed me. I was the blue Mitsu who really enjoyed throwing 1a mix-ups. You still trashed me though. You're a really good Tira imo.

 

[MTK]

Someone double rung me out, i cant remember who or what they used.

Christ i need training mode, i am doing very, very poorly at this game.
Lag isn't too bad most of the time.
I'm also getting matches very quickly.
I'm wondering if people's issues earlier were because the beta had just opened and there wasn't anyone on.

I doubled ko once, yeah training mode would had been nice but if you played previous games you should be fine. It's not just lag but the input lag the button response be off. As for the matchmaking issue, it wasn't that it was because we had the wrong settings. For some reason we had to put everything on any to get match fast.

 

[JohnMcKee]

Yeah button response being delayed is quite annoying... Otherwise the beta seems quite smooth, or at least for me :)

 

[GroovyValentine]

-(during wind fury/air rage)~ B:B(hit/block)
That move is called panay huriccane.

Thanks! Just picked her, have been doing that backflip into that stance, definitely a potent move. One to watch out for.

Really enjoying this game by the way, fun stuff. I've played 12 of the characters so far, and my friend is a classic Voldo main.

 

[EvangelioN]

Second day of the beta and Taki players still kill me lol

 

[Pyrrus]

I like people who spam RE. They make it so easy to sidestep and punish.

 

[GroovyValentine]

^ Taki is flashy and fast for sure, one of my favs to play.

Anybody know how to do that Mitsurugi move where he impales his opponent then kicks them off? Does that require being in that stabby stance? I forget how to get into that stance also if so. I'd ask it in the Mitsu thread, but it's been a few weeks without posts, figure beta Qs could go in here. Thanks!

 

[PSY]

Not taking personally man. Sorry if it came off that way, but you can take what (mainly) Psy said and spin that as someone believing they've already come up with a final verdict which can be where the tone came off a bit well off. Not saying it is, but I'm only responding with what I believe, same thing I would say for any character/system in any game. The only thing I'll take personally is the assumption that you have that the only reason I am saying anything is because I like the character (and that's really only cause its late and I need to sleep). This is my design background talking, it just so happens that I also like the character as well.

My point for saying she isn't good is that there are far too many negatives compared to positives, all characters should have flaws and risk can definitely be one of those things, talim can be a risky character and it would be fine, but combine that with low range, low damage, unsafe lows, unsafe stances, unsafe normals (from block push back) and very few mixups, and the backstepping Ramus mentioned. What you get is a character that requires you to take constant risks at very close range with little damage payoff and hoping your opponent doesn't realize every time you do a flip, spin, or turn in between your strings they can just do their fastest mid A and literally stop most of it cause with a large majority of the cast their As will knock you out of back turn, side turn, forward, and back jump after block before you have a chance to do anything else. Talim plays like a technical rushdown character where positioning is very important but has no way to effectively counter having space put between her and because all her fastest attacks are mids and highs it's really not gonna hold up to a competent player that just puts distance between them and pokes or one that can just counter all her stances.

back turn? A or backstep
side turn? A
forward jump? A or B
back jump? A or backstep

you've just closed down the majority of her offense and she has no way to quickly and safely get back in (that i'm aware of)
it fucking sucks cause I love playing talim and was really hoping her stances would be more useful after 10 YEARS of waiting for her to return... but no, they basically made her like 3 or 4 with a new stance that admittedly has some pretty neat stuff but it's just all too unsafe to reliably use. As I see it now she doesn't feel good, it could change, there could be more we find out at release, I could simply be missing something, there could be balance changes, but i'm not holding my breath.