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I've actually felt she was one of the leading candidates for a Season 3 guest for a long while now--and beyond any probability or her cross-promotional value, I just think she makes a lot of sense from a design perspective. But I'm not sure the Smasheroth announcement changes the calculations much, one or way or another.So do you guys still think Tifa is going to be the premiere guest for Season 3 after the Sephiroth Smash reveal?
No, I'd rather have Tifa on TEKKEN and Cloud on SOULCALIBUR if Bandai Namco is going this route especially since Cloud was supposed to be the guest character in SOULCALIBUR II.So do you guys still think Tifa is going to be the premiere guest for Season 3 after the Sephiroth Smash reveal?
I actually think Tifa's quality of movement (especially as rendered in the remake) is a much closer fit with Soulcalibur's mechanics than Tekken's: Tifa's aesthetic and presentation as a fighter is all about speed an maneuverability, something that will come across much better as rendered in a 8WR system than it would in Tekken's 2.5D staccato combat; armed vs. unarmed should not really be treated as anything more than a superficial feature when deciding which of these two franchise a character is better off being ported to.No, I'd rather have Tifa on TEKKEN and Cloud on SOULCALIBUR if Bandai Namco is going this route especially since Cloud was supposed to be the guest character in SOULCALIBUR II.
You're probably right that Cloud is plenty "timeless" enough to be able to attract some sales even outside of the immediate launch window of a product in their native franchise, but remember that it's not just a matter of whether or not the character can pull enough sales for the game that character is operating as a guest in: the timing also has to be attractive to SE for it's own promotional purpose, or else they have no motivation to offer a sweetheart deal on the licensing, and the prospect becomes significantly less likely.But anyway, I still think that FINAL FANTASY VII characters can be saved for SOULCALIBUR VII especially if FINAL FANTASY VII R2 and SOULCALIBUR VII will come out around the same time. They can do many things with a "VII x VII" collaboration promotion. Cloud is also one of those "timeless" characters that are iconic enough to be a relevant guest character at any era of gaming (like the Star Wars characters) so it doesn't matter which game between FF7R2 and SC7 launches first nor the gap between launches. This adds versatility for scheduling promotions.
Because I'm also a TEKKEN fan (even though I like SOULCALIBUR more) and I think she fits in TEKKEN better. I too prefer Tifa over Cloud but I'm just going for what makes sense lol. I like characters that fight with their fists in TEKKEN and characters that fight with their weapons in SOULCALIBUR.Anyway, I honestly don't know why anyone would want Cloud rather than Tifa. Cloud is just a broody emo superman with the fashion sense of a Matrix extra. The only reason for 9/10 of the general familiarity with Cloud exists among gamers is because of the image of him holding his buster sword with those scrawny little arms--and that's just any ordinary dude in Soulcal verse.
Well, for my take on that, I'll just refer back to the first portion of my last post: I think the weapon/no weapon thing is one the more superficial bases by which to situate a guest, which is why that principle has never been a strict guide for guests in either franchise. The quality of movement and the best match in terms of mechanics are the best way to predict where they might land.Because I'm also a TEKKEN fan (even though I like SOULCALIBUR more) and I think she fits in TEKKEN better. I too prefer Tifa over Cloud but I'm just going for what makes sense lol. I like characters that fight with their fists in TEKKEN and characters that fight with their weapons in SOULCALIBUR.
But that's a bit of a false choice: they aren't selecting characters from just one franchise and a non-poster child character from a Triple-A franchise can easily be a better choice than the main character of a less acclaimed title. With Cloud and Sephiroth both in Smash now, there's a lot of reason to believe neither is likely to be licensed out to another fighter any time soon. That leaves Tifa as they closest thing to a FFVII-R headliner. But honestly, I'd argue she'd be a better fit for SC mechanically than Cloud and Sephirtoh even if they were on the table.Unlike SOULCALIBUR (sadly), TEKKEN (which is more popular) doesn't need for the guest character to be the poster character of its game and can add characters like Akuma and Geese which are side characters that people in the FGC are familiar with but characters that people outside the FGC probably won't recognize. SOULCALIBUR can get more exposure by putting in the main poster character of a popular game like Cloud as the guest character.
Hmmm, I actually think the situation reads in the inverse fashion: most any dedicated franchise fan already has the game, and the number of general fighting game enthusiast willing to give the game a shot dwindles increasingly to a trickle the further out from the release of the game and its novelty and buzz--especially as we head into the technical leap forward of a new console generation. A guest character from a big name title is probably more valuable than ever in terms of generating some buy-in of the core game, relative to the other options for DLC. Though, emphasis on the "relative" there: I don't think any season passes right now are going to drive a whole lot of new sales this far in, regardless of the content choices you make for those seasons: at this point the season passes are probably overwhelmingly being bought by people who are already part of the core game's established install base.On the other hand though, since we're talking about Season 3, we're at a point where the target audience are the core SOULCALIBUR fans rather than new players. Anyone who doesn't already have SOULCALIBUR at this point is unlikely to get the game even if their favorite character from their favorite game is added as a guest in Season 3 (I do think that some guest characters like Cloud or Tifa will make the core fans very happy but isn't a necessary addition). I personally think that a new character alongside returning characters would be a lot more effective marketing-wise than adding in a guest since new characters add a level of mystique (kind of like the reworked Hwang did) that core fans would be interested in trying out. It's also what TEKKEN did with Leroy and Fahkumram in Season 3.
Ehhh, I'm trying not to stake out firm positions on this topic in general, because it's going to be so long before we know for sure, but fairly certain that's not going to happen: some random soul chronicle character getting promoted to a main roster character tanks somewhere below Necrid, time traveling Patroklos, and Gel-o-Fury in hierarchy of probabilities. But you can happily make me eat crow if I turn out to be wrong!I'm more inclined to believe that we'll get Iska/Acht as a new addition if it's between a new character or a guest for Season 3.
Wouldn't Tifa make more sense in Tekken or DOA?So do you guys still think Tifa is going to be the premiere guest for Season 3 after the Sephiroth Smash reveal?
Please not DOA, Lord . . . . come on, God, I trusted you!Wouldn't Tifa make more sense in Tekken or DOA?
Is this a shitpost? Couldn't think of a worse season three cast list if I tried!
Yup, Monty was not just a profoundly gifted artist in his own right: he also was a student of human movement who made a point of observing the subject in every context he could, from practical real world martial arts and dance to just about every form of media which ever made a contribution to the genre of action choreography--from golden era film to classical Hong Kong cinema, to modern wushu epics, to animated hits and contemporary trends in games, he studied it and let it inform his own brilliant work.Please not DOA, Lord . . . . come on, God, I trusted you!
However, I personally don’t have a very harsh rebuttal, anymore, for if Tifa ends up in Soulcalibur OR Tekken. I just gladly go back to a very good time and place in my life — when Monty Oum was alive.
And though this could be considered unrelated, I still DEEPLY AND FIERCELY appreciate the little “Dead Fantasy” episodes that Monty created and tampered with in preparation for his more famous series. Especially loving how many Tekken and SC animations I could properly catch in each fight, one thing to throw up in the air for PS is to go about with Tifa in the fashion that Monty had! Yes, I’m aware that the way she fights in DF is inaccurate, but if she’s a yes for SC, won’t she be similarly “edited”?
Sorry if I upset you, but if you care to look I already posted my ideal season pass 3 characters (essentially all the remaining veterans).okay...tell us which characters do you want..... you smartass....!!!
this is my opinion about the season pass 3 and my taste of the characters....
next time try to be more kind to other people and respect their opinion....!!!
I would love to see Rock return for Season 3.
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