Viola Video Discussion

Hey guys I will gladly appreciate good or bad comments. But I need suggestions on how i play my viola, can someone give me tips? Here's a video of my gameplay

 
Ice_Beam said:
Hey guys I will gladly appreciate good or bad comments. But I need suggestions on how i play my viola, can someone give me tips? Here's a video of my gameplay

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looks nice, lol im in position to talk atm, I suck hard
but, I noticed you dont really step often, and your pretty lucky that mitsu doesnt know how to sidestep 8A+B
also im not completely sure, but I think after the 6AB B+KBE , you can ukemi the UB
so often 6AB B+K BE, 6B+K AAB etc
is a safter option
 
I thought you played really well there. Bear in mind that Mitsurugi has a great matchup against Viola, and the guy you played seemed to know what he was doing. His :4::B: really stuffs a lot of our options; I've found that if you're close to him, :8::A+B: will still catch him when he does it, and as I saw you try, :4::4::K: can be put to good use as well.

The :6::A::B: BE then unblockable does do a lot of damage, but I don't do it because it can be avoided by anyone who knows the trick or has seen you do it a few times.

Otherwise, I'm interested in other people's commentary as well, because Mitsurugi is just straight up a difficult matchup for us.
 
Ah I see, no wonder I was having a bit of difficulties fighting against mitsurugi xD yeah the 4B is kinda annoying. So my best options is when she does the knee slide :D
 
also this may just be a thing that works against this specific mitsu, but i've found 11b seem work, as I tend not fight mitsu close because of the 4B, unless im punishing with 3b
 
I always have 4B+K ready against Mitsu's, Asty's, Sig's and NM's. I like your 6AB-B+K, 9K. I've never done that. I always switch around 6AB-B+K, 6B+K since changing the timing slightly makes a difference between the orb and set version of 6B+K. The orb version of 6B+K can go straight in 44A BE. I also try do go into 4A+B after 6AB or 6AB-B+K but if the timing is too soon the orb ghosts.
 
Ice_Beam said:
Hey guys I will gladly appreciate good or bad comments. But I need suggestions on how i play my viola, can someone give me tips? Here's a video of my gameplay

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You use 8A+B way too much! It's only a good punisher if you can't punish with 3B (3B is i18, 8A+B is i19) and it's very unsafe.

Other than that I like you Viola though, she's quite unpredictable.
 
Yeah I figured that out that I rely too much on the 8a+b xD It's because I like that punisher ^^ Yes I am also aware it's unsafe, I just don't know why I use it often. Because I love the range and how it tracks behind. I see thanks :)
 
Awesome vid Ice Beam, love what you did with the Brave Edge and then followed up with the unblockable, thats the first time I seen a Viola player do/use that like that. Very nice set up. :) @1:36
 
Thank you KitKay, I honestly wasn't expecting to much nice comments. I thought I'd get lots of ' ow you need to improve this and that' xD
 
Wow, your Viola is really good! Thank you for posting that, I'll probably try to incorporate some of your tactics into my own style.

The only things I would say are that:

1) In the first video, it just looks like you don't know the Leixia matchup very well - you were dropping guard halfway through combos etc. - so not really a criticism of your Viola per se.
2) I personally dislike your meter use. I might be in the minority in that I never use :2::B+K: BE, but even so, of the three times you tried it you dropped the combo in two. Also, you didn't capitalise fully on her :CE:; I find it's best when they're up close so you can get two big damage mixups in a row on them without any fear of a counterattack in-between. And I don't know what you were trying the times you did :B+K: BE, but it didn't seem to work. The :4::4::A: was good though.
3) You never step after being blocked. Obviously it's best not to do this too much, but in general people tend to attack with verticals, and you can often dodge something like a :B::B: string or a launcher and hit them with a launcher of your own, or throw them. Some characters this really screws over (Raph, as well as Viola herself), and in your Leixia game particularly it seemed like stepping a bit would have been worth the risk.

With all that said, I really like how you use her; your low game in particular is much better than mine, and I always forget about her little backflip attack.
 
Ninja you kind of remind me of myself and how I fight with Viola, I'm going to post a vid later, I want feed back on my Viola now. :)

Very nice ending Ice. :D
 
@Ninja:

Your opponents weren't too amazing ;)
ORB 9A+B, lots of it. That move is super punishable yet you got away with it every time.
ORB 6A+B up close? Why?
 
I just recently had an online match vs ROME__LGB, apparently he said I suck with my viola because he said I spam with 3B, does it really make me a sucky viola player? Here was our match:


I do get irritated sometimes when I get only negative comments about my gameplay, even one of my frequent online friend said that I spam to much with her <_<
 
He's just mad because you beat him when he had a great matchup against you. I liked your :4::A+B: use.

Though that Critical Edge whiff was pretty embarrassing.
 
Synalon said:
He's just mad because you beat him when he had a great matchup against you. I liked your :4::A+B: use.

Though that Critical Edge whiff was pretty embarrassing.
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I did that by accident to be honest, I wanted to recover the orb back to me back pressing :B+K:, but my left hand automatically did the 236,236 xD
 
Ice_Beam said:
I just recently had an online match vs ROME__LGB, apparently he said I suck with my viola because he said I spam with 3B, does it really make me a sucky viola player? [...]

I do get irritated sometimes when I get only negative comments about my gameplay, even one of my frequent online friend said that I spam to much with her <_<
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you actually didnt use a lot of 3Bs in this match at all. Against some characters who can punish it heavily on block it may be not wise to spam 3B, but against Nightmare you can keep taking advantage of the screwed risk/reward ratio of that move all day cos he can only punish it with K.
Also, don't listen to what people say online. First thing is that it is easy to meet people who think they are cool when they try to evaluate others' game but don't know shit themselves. Second thing is that online performance will probably never be a good indicator of a player's skill. Third, even if you were spamming 3B its him who sucks if he keeps eating it, not you who keeps using an effective tool to win the match.
 
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