PC vs Consoles

[damn-I-Suck]

Oh jesus Norik cry me a river already.

But anyway, the choice is pretty damn obvious.

PC user can gloat all they want about superior graphics, but the truth is, Games were not designed to fully take advantage of all the processing superiority that they have.

Take Skyrim for example. Since they knew it was going to be a game for ALL platforms, it was designed with the lowest common denominator, in this case the PS3.

I've seen Skyrim on a top-notch PC that has roughly 6-8 times the processing power of my PS3, and let me tell you, the graphics don't look all that much better. Sure, it's a little smoother and the anti-aliasing is better, but all in all it's only marginally better.

Now, with the new consoles right around the corner, PC games will now take more advantage of the processing power. Why? Because the new consoles means that game developers can make a multi-platform game by simply porting it over now (especially since the new consoles are built more like PC's anyway).

So let's go back to the question. PC vs consoles.

If I wanted to play skyrim on a PC, I would have to spend about twice as much on a system that is capable of playing the game, as opposed to a 250$ PS3. Not to mention, all the other current multi-platform games would also require a PC that is at least twice as expensive as a console. And since I hate FPS anyway, there is not a single game that I would want a mouse and keyboard for.

Don't get me wrong, I love my PC. I like to look at facebook, 8wr, and other things, and it's good for that. And to be honest my PC is so old that it's actually got a slower processor than my ps3!

So all those PC elitists who boast about better graphics and blah blah blah, you can have them, especially at that ridiculous price tag. Not to mention, SC has never been on a PC :)

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

So all those PC elitists who boast about better graphics and blah blah blah, you can have them, especially at that ridiculous price tag. Not to mention, SC has never been on a PC :)

Holy crap! This, this this, is such the truth! >:DD

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

I used to build my own PC when I was younger, I remember updating my graphics card a couple times, and I wanted to install FFXI but it said my graphics card "need to be up to-date specs". So I bought a new one for $40, as a kid that's a LOT of money...

I end up always ripping open my PC, I install it, and it plays fine. As I'm gaming apparently my PC had some viruses, which randomly after 2 hours would cause it to lag out, and eventually D/C unless I went to dashboard to fix it, or went back to Task Manager.

In any case, like I said from the beginning but Norik was too f***ing retarded to read, I said gaming consoles are far less problematic, so people will probably choose it over a gaming PC, even if you can upgrade the hell out of your PC specs.

 

[Cricket]

...Since they knew it was going to be a game for ALL platforms, it was designed with the lowest common denominator, in this case the PS3...

Precisely why I'm looking forward to the next console generation – boosting that lowest common denominator up a bit. We all gain if that happens.

 

[Sett]

 

[Slade]

Just gonna leave this here.

Seriously, how much did the PC you're browsing this on cost? $300-500? And you retards plan on buying a $300 $400 console on top of that instead of just building a PC that's modular, upgradeable, and more powerful than the PS4? Disgusting.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

Just gonna leave this here.

Seriously, how much did the PC you're browsing this on cost? $300-500? And you retards plan on buying a $300 $400 console on top of that instead of just building a PC that's modular, upgradeable, and more powerful than the PS4? Disgusting.

Yeah.... You 'can' build one for under 1K, but that's using second rate parts.

Just going to leave this here for Slade...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110526194730AApkQml

"Average gaming PC with the latest specs costs around 1K if you build it yourself.

Also... http://www.amazon.com/Microtel-Computer®-AMTI9028-Computer-Microsoft/dp/B003IS5N4O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1379362078&sr=8-6&keywords=gaming pc

My friend Chris is selling his Liquid Cooling hypertech PC with optimized RAM + Cooling systems + 64 bits Graphic's Card with the highest performance, and a whopping 32 Gigs of RAM... All for $2,400.

Nice job looking like a fool Slade by showing a graphics card cost only $72 when the high end ones cost about $100-120. Besides, the standard issue Gaming PC (WITHOUT any modifications) STILL costs more than an Xbox One around $600, and you need to take the time for utility and optimization. And those aren't even the high-end Microtel models.

In 2 years your gaming PC will be outdated, assuming the great console titles for PS4 and XB1 even get ported for PC gamers.... Good luck!!! xDD

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

1) Gaming PC has better graphics, power, and everything over consoles.

2) Consoles get WAY more games than PC gamers, as evidence, PC gamers are currently begging RockStar to port Grand Theft Auto 5 to PC. (being a PC gamer is great huh? You get to miss out on a bunch of high end titles... right?)

3) Gaming PC's (The good ones) usually cost double what a Xbox One cost, and they require complicated optimization.

4) Did I mention PC gamers don't even get great games like GTA5 and other big titles like KillZone, Dead Rising 3, Final Fantasy 15...?? So right there you have a huge incentive to not give a shit about PC gaming.

5) PC gaming would be practically dead if it weren't for Steam.

 

[Slade]

Yeah.... You 'can' build one for under 1K, but that's using second rate parts.

Just going to leave this here for Slade...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110526194730AApkQml

"Average gaming PC with the latest specs costs around 1K if you build it yourself.

Also... http://www.amazon.com/Microtel-Computer®-AMTI9028-Computer-Microsoft/dp/B003IS5N4O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1379362078&sr=8-6&keywords=gaming pc

My friend Chris is selling his Liquid Cooling hypertech PC with optimized RAM + Cooling systems + 64 bits Graphic's Card with the highest performance, and a whopping 32 Gigs of RAM... All for $2,400.

Nice job looking like a fool Slade by showing a graphics card cost only $72 when the high end ones cost about $100-120. Besides, the standard issue Gaming PC (WITHOUT any modifications) STILL costs more than an Xbox One around $600, and you need to take the time for utility and optimization. And those aren't even the high-end Microtel models.

In 2 years your gaming PC will be outdated, assuming the great console titles for PS4 and XB1 even get ported for PC gamers.... Good luck!!! xDD

>citing yahoo answers
>7870 is a "second rate GPU"
>ignoring facts to win an argument

Fucking kill yourself, you retarded faggot.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

>citing yahoo answers
>7870 is a "second rate GPU"
>ignoring facts to win an argument

Fucking kill yourself, you retarded faggot.

Fact:

Owning a $1,000 gaming PC and not being able to play games like KillZone, GTA5, and SoulCalibur.

VS

Owning a $400 or $500 home console and playing all game titles in stunning graphics, and being 4K TV compatible.

I'm sure you also stupidly forgot that home consoles devote 95% of their RAM power to games, and games alone. On a gaming PC your RAM gets used up by lots of other operating programs, such as window. So in other words, you'll need to drop over $1,000 on a gaming PC if you want to rival a XB1 and a PS4 as far as gaming power is concerned. My Pavilion DV7 PC right now has more RAM than a Xbox One, and has the latest graphics card. But I'll still get better performance with an XB1.

Slade, you're just making yourself look like a clown now... lol! As evidence of this, if a gaming PC were such a great option, than why do you even own an Xbox? Uh oh!!!!! Maybe because SoulCalibur isn't even on PC? Uh oh!! 'Nuff said. >:3

 

[Cricket]

Seems like "Gaming PC vs. Yet-to-be-released Console" is the hot new theory fighting game around here.
Go for broke!

 

[Slade]

Fact:

Owning a $1,000 gaming PC and not being able to play games like KillZone, GTA5, and SoulCalibur.

VS

Owning a $400 or $500 home console and playing all game titles in stunning graphics, and being 4K TV compatible.

I'm sure you also stupidly forgot that home consoles devote 95% of their RAM power to games, and games alone. On a gaming PC your RAM gets used up by lots of other operating programs, such as window. So in other words, you'll need to drop over $1,000 on a gaming PC if you want to rival a XB1 and a PS4 as far as gaming power is concerned. My Pavilion DV7 PC right now has more RAM than a Xbox One, and has the latest graphics card. But I'll still get better performance with an XB1.

Slade, you're just making yourself look like a clown now... lol! As evidence of this, if a gaming PC were such a great option, than why do you even own an Xbox? Uh oh!!!!! Maybe because SoulCalibur isn't even on PC? Uh oh!! 'Nuff said. >:3

I could go into the entire argument surrounding game exclusivity being a cycle perpetuated by Sony and Microsoft to sell a shit system to retards. I could also go into an argument (which I've already done, categorically, multiple times) regarding the price of a PC that is superior to next-gen consoles.

But I'm not going to do that. I'm going to tell you to kill yourself.

Seriously. Do it.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

I could go into the entire argument surrounding game exclusivity being a cycle perpetuated by Sony and Microsoft to sell a shit system to retards.
But I'm not going to do that. I'm going to tell you to kill yourself.

Seriously. Do it.

1) Nobody cares, either good games are coming to PC, or they're not. Nobody gives a crap about a system that doesn't host the latest, most popular game titles. Nobody, even yourself included (fellow Xbox360 owner..).

2) People who own home consoles aren't retarded, they made conscious decisions based on convenience, games, and gaming performance. That's why people own a console over a PC 10 to 1.

3) You try to justify a gaming PCs existence by bragging about the specs. Meanwhile you need to manually install everything, and simple things like a CrossFire Video card cost $200, that's half the total price of a PS4.

4) You mad bro?!

 

[Slade]

1) Nobody cares, either good games are coming to PC, or they're not. Nobody gives a crap about a system that doesn't host the latest, most popular game titles. Nobody, even yourself included (fellow Xbox360 owner..).

2) People who own home consoles aren't retarded, they made conscious decisions based on convenience, games, and gaming performance. That's why people own a console over a PC 10 to 1.

3) You try to justify a gaming PCs existence by bragging about the specs. Meanwhile you need to manually install everything, and simple things like a CrossFire Video card cost $200, that's half the total price of a PS4.

4) You mad bro?!

Being retarded to try to make people angry on the internet isn't really trolling. It's just kind of sad.

Consider suicide.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

Being retarded to try to make people angry on the internet isn't really trolling. It's just kind of sad.

Consider suicide.

Nothing gets me "loling!" more than when a console owner tells me how much consoles suck, and why owning one is "retarded".

You said you wanted me to die, Bro Rage confirmation 100%! [Now scanning for tears.]

 

[Norik]

I'm sure you also stupidly forgot that home consoles devote 95% of their RAM power to games, and games alone...

Oh really? Looks like someone failed their math class.

Nobody gives a crap about a system that doesn't host the latest, most popular game titles.

Not sure if I agree; I literally got my Xbox exclusively for Calibur and Vanquish, and I only did it because it costed about 40 bucks. And the system corrupted my Vanquish savefile because YOLO.

Also, what are these "popular games" you speak of? Forza..? Halo? GTA? The PS3 got a couple of nice indie exclusives near the end of its lifespan, I'll give you that, but other than that there's not much of worth that you can't already play on a PC... except for Nintendo exclusives. Assasin's Creed, Battlefield, Saints Row, Elder Scrolls, Rayman Legends, Divekick, even that CoD crap everyone seems to love. It's all on PC. Plus an infinite supply of doujin open source games. And emulators (so you get a bunch of free consoles with your PC).

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

Lol @ Norik being back in this topic! xD

I thought he put me on /Ignore and rage quit this convo. Good to see I've inspired him to return to this topic. Hahaha, he just can't let his ego subside. =]

Plus an infinite supply of doujin open source games. And emulators (so you get a bunch of free consoles with your PC).

Fan made games usually suck, they're basically a low graded version of Indie games. And while we're in the discussion of low budget games, did you know how many Xbox360 and PS3 Japanese title games never see life on a gaming PC? About 80% of them. Games like Touhou you basically need to pirate with bit torrents, because Steam doesn't carry lots of Japanese games. Not to mention if you're a fighting game player, you have ZERO interesting in owning a gaming PC.

-Can't play Soul Calibur.
-Can't play Tekken tag 2.
-Cant' play BlazBlue.
-Can't play Dead or Alive 5.

The list goes on and on.... You also get screwed out of the best games like Halo and GTA5. If you're a gaming PC owner, you get screwed, bottom line. That's why you read about all this nonsense "petition" crap by PC gamers online, they're basically begging publishers to port games so they can play them. Sad.......

 

[Norik]

-Can't play Dead or Alive 5.
If you're a gaming PC owner, you get screwed.

LOL. Now I can never be sure if you were just joking all this time.

Also, you can play Blazblue. More evidence of you not knowing what you're talking about. You can also play Street Fighter, KOF, Mortal Kombat, xTekken... So if your concern is lack of games, you're simply not doing your research.

Fan made games usually suck...

...Not to mention the best games like Halo and GTA5

So this is where it all stems. You just have the taste of a 10 year old. I've been giving you too much credit all this time.

You're right, I should have never come back to this thread.

 

[WuHT]

I can ignore the pointless debate about the merits of of exclusive PC vs exclusive console. However, there is too much misinformation that cannot be perpetuated.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110526194730AApkQml

"Average gaming PC with the latest specs costs around 1K if you build it yourself.

Don't quote yahoo answers like it's some bible as the absolute truth.

Also... http://www.amazon.com/Microtel-Computer®-AMTI9028-Computer-Microsoft/dp/B003IS5N4O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1379362078&sr=8-6&keywords=gaming pc

Again, what people are telling you is that you are paying a premium for a pre-assembled name-brand all-in-one PC. If you are able to build one your self, you can save significantly. Obviously computer peripherals you could get away with using an existing one.

My friend Chris is selling his Liquid Cooling hypertech PC with optimized RAM + Cooling systems + 64 bits Graphic's Card with the highest performance, and a whopping 32 Gigs of RAM... All for $2,400.

Don't name drop, and especially don't say it is your "friend" and expect anyone to be impressed or to have your comments validated. Describing your friend doesn't make you more knowledgeable of the subject. I'm happy for his price of $2,400, but you seem to have have no clue as to what would make it worth $2,400 (at least his asking price).

What is 64 bit graphics card ? 32 gig ram kits can be acquired for about $300 bucks, so thats $2,100 for the rest of the components. Again, I have no reason why i'm even trying to help you break it down, but that's like describing how awesome a car your friend is selling for $100,000 and then telling people that it has nice rims and cup holders without providing any other information.

Nice job looking like a fool Slade by showing a graphics card cost only $72 when the high end ones cost about $100-120.

Hate to break it to you, but $100 gpus are considered mid-mainstream at best. Reading slade's post, the only thing that is 72 bucks is the RAM, not the GPU and those are 2 different pieces of hardware. I am beginning to question whether you know anything about a PC.

And those aren't even the high-end Microtel models.

A "Microtel" PC is only as good as its components, and falling for brand name (rather than the actual pieces of hardware) is a good way for a fool and his money to be parted. Really, out of all the name brands to whore out, you choose Microtel. Their website shows their line of products ranging from kiosks to industrial appliances. I don't think that is a good choice even in the first place.

You can debate about how great the consoles are, I won't argue with you on that front. However, you appear to know next to nothing about the current PC market so you're using misinformation as your platform to slam PCs.

>7870 is a "second rate GPU"

7870 with its free games at $200, while a great deal, certainly can't be put in the top tier of GPUs available currently, especially with the 9000 series just around the corner.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

Omg, the moronic nerds in this topic. LOL!

I literally picture a bunch of guys with thick brimmed glasses going "No no! you got the specs wrong! No no! It has 7 GB of RAM, not 8!"

Everyone in this topic owns a console to play games on, FACT.

Everyone in this topic owns a console to be able to play Soul Calibur.

Shut the hell up with your nerdgasms. PC gaming costs a lot more, I built 2 PCs myself as a kid since 2003, (The FFXI days.) Seriously, and anyone who buys GTA5 tomorrow is a retarded hypocrite, because you need a console to play that game.

'Nuff said. And stop with this stupid "Oh this piece of hard ware you can buy online for $200, not $300!" Seriously, nerds, nobody cares, it still costs a lot, shut up.