SSfox
[14] Master
Wow most of costumes of this Lost Sword game were truly pure trash garbage
Soul Calibur VI: General discussion
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Nyte
Fu-ma's Shadow
Quick question:
We know they will be porting games from the 8th Gen to the 9th. How would you feel if for PS5/Xbox Scarlett, they released an SCVI "Definitive Edition" with all content built in and enhanced 4K graphicsso you can look at Ivy and Taki's boobs in the utmost detail to make better character models and environments? The idea is to hold the fanbase over until SCVII (hopefully announced in 2021/released in 2022) I feel like it'd refresh the community and capitalize on the low competition of early next-gen, and get extra sales which wouldn't hurt.
Would you double dip?
I know I had a topic about this a while back, but this is the focus of activity so...
We know they will be porting games from the 8th Gen to the 9th. How would you feel if for PS5/Xbox Scarlett, they released an SCVI "Definitive Edition" with all content built in and enhanced 4K graphics
Would you double dip?
I know I had a topic about this a while back, but this is the focus of activity so...
Project Bokuho
[14] Master
Rusted Blade
[14] Master
I probably would, but the the more salient point remains: there's very little chance such a thing will ever happen. The next-gen consoles in question are being built on substantially different hardware than the present one, one which Namco software engineers are going to be initially unfamiliar with, which means all of the usual substantial costs of a port, and then some. This is why developers are never in a hurry to be the first ones out of the gate to produce a game on a new platform with increased costs and a lower install base: you really only do it in two circumstances: 1) You have a triple-A title that is itself a platform mover (because in those cases you have some degree of confidence in the number of units you are going to sell and the console manufacturer is probably helping with a sweetheart distribution deal) or 2) you are rolling the dice on some new IP and are willing to put some marketing muscle behind it and hope it catches a consumer wave. Furthermore Namco rarely enters this game, and Project Soul never does: literally, in the entire 23 year history of this franchise, every single last game was dropped either smack in the middle of the then-current generation or at it's tail end.
What's more, there's a lot of scuttlebutt about robust backwards compatability this coming generation and if that ends up bearing out, the average player could end up having access to some version of the game through the usual emulation/BC processes for these machines. People are just not going to buy a new version of a game like this just for some punched up graphics and rolled-in features that they already mostly or enitrely bought as Season Pass content. But even if there wasn't such a method for playing a version of the game for which you already have a license, on the new machine, the demand for a higher definition remake of a fighter (and not even a game in one of the genre's top five competitors) a few years after its initial release is going to be so slight that it could never justify the cost of creating such a port. I wish the situation was otherwise, but it does not make good business sense for them to do it.
But yes, as a theoretical matter, I would probably buy a new addition just for upscaled graphics and to support the franchise. I suspect a majority of hardcore fans would, for at least one system. But that's never going to be enough to justify the cost and effort. Besides, remember that Project Soul is not a permanent internal studio for Namco: they are an ad-hoc team put together when it is time to create a new game for the franchise and then those staff resources are eventually re-absorbed into other projects. The continuing support model has obviously kept some degree of SCVI's PS together to churn out the season passes, but that probably will not last forever.
On a side note, 2022 is probably far too soon to expect SCVII: these games have been getting farther and farther apart, release after release, consistently for more than two decades, because of increasing cost and complexity of the work and an increasingly competitive market (in which Namco's own products compete against eachother no less, which is one of several reasons that Tekken and SC are released intermittently and never at the same time). It is highly dubious that the next game will come out in half the time that passed between this game and the last full entry. The ongoing support sales/distribution model might hasten the game a little bit this time, but not by more than a year or two. 2023-2026 is a more realistic time frame, sad to say. I don't think you see next Tekken until 2021-2022, and there's no way the next Soulcalibur comes out anything sooner than two year after the previous Tekken entry.
SSfox
[14] Master
Next gen will have backward compatibility, so they can re-release the game in the goty edition while for those who already own the game will get a free graphic enhance update. (like most games already does with the PS4 Pro and Xbox X versions for graphics upgrades)
SpellcraftQuill
[14] Master
Anybody else wonder how big the CaS packs might be if we’re getting one per character?
Where’s our Tiger Lily stuff? We still don’t have enough footwear even if Cassandra’s release helped. I really want the Hip Skirt or Pareo. Viola’s unreleased 2P would also have been convenient. Ninja Masks don’t make very good veils.
Also the Korean swordie will finally give the spiky hair. Setsuka also tends to have nice hairstyles. I can expect a damaged variant from her as well.
Where’s our Tiger Lily stuff? We still don’t have enough footwear even if Cassandra’s release helped. I really want the Hip Skirt or Pareo. Viola’s unreleased 2P would also have been convenient. Ninja Masks don’t make very good veils.
Also the Korean swordie will finally give the spiky hair. Setsuka also tends to have nice hairstyles. I can expect a damaged variant from her as well.
LisaK
[14] Master
long ponytail or double buns??
SpellcraftQuill
[14] Master
Long ponytail. Taki’s is a bit too short. Especially considering men can have theirs longer. Women have to have theirs braided.
Alexandra
Fearless Eyes
Considering we're getting one per character, we'll probably get the unique character parts plus a small release of about 25-30 parts each time. I would say we will most likely get old costumes for characters who appeared in SCIV or V with some Lost Swords equipment and basic stuff we're missing peppered throughout.
It's safe to expect they'll probably spread some lesser armor sets out between all four packs (such as Tiger Lily armor).
LisaK
[14] Master
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SpellcraftQuill
[14] Master
Also have to consider whatever freebies.
Silver-wind
[05] Battler
Hello everyone! New to 8wayrun. Since the Invitational is coming up, I feel like it’s my last chance to talk about the first character to possibly be revealed at the event. For a long time, I agreed with @DanteSC3 and others that Hwang would be the yellow slot (which I really want ). But, recently, I have been thinking it will be Hilde. Why:
+ Noticeable appearance of Wolfkrone soldiers in story modes/Libra of Soul.
+ Hilde has a unique move-set, popularity, and a recent model/move set. I think the budget for every character is a factor in this choosing. In comparison to Hwang, Hilde may be a much safer/cheaper implementation (especially as Hwang’s move set finalization would be risky: which move set do we choose?What did fans want?)
This post hurt to write lol. I really want Hwang in the game.
Sorry for the long post lol
+ Noticeable appearance of Wolfkrone soldiers in story modes/Libra of Soul.
+ Hilde has a unique move-set, popularity, and a recent model/move set. I think the budget for every character is a factor in this choosing. In comparison to Hwang, Hilde may be a much safer/cheaper implementation (especially as Hwang’s move set finalization would be risky: which move set do we choose?What did fans want?)
This post hurt to write lol. I really want Hwang in the game.
Sorry for the long post lol
Ukkesh
[13] Hero
Welcome! Other than her style uniqueness and ease of implementation factors, is there any other factors to make you think she's the yellow slot rather than grey? Who do you think is the grey then?
I mean, I'm personally happy to see any character back.
Hope you stick around.
LisaK
[14] Master
Liar..
Silver-wind
[05] Battler
Hi @Ukkesh and thank you for welcoming me! I hope I can stick around too : ).
That is the thing that worries me to. Why give Hilde yellow - a color we associate with Hwang or maybe even some other character ( Dampierre). But, I only have a theory (possibly crazy) on this lol. Bear with me.
Ok, so, the last slot is grey with Souledge in the background. I think grey was chosen rather than white for this slot due to design issues. White would likely make the thunder effects difficult to see in the image. But, even with this small idea debunked, my idea still stands, I think lol. Yun-Seong pursues Soul-edge (aligning himself with Souledge like the grey slot). But, also, his debut design is mainly white. The slot is grey though, right? But, his debut weapon is the “White Storm”. To me, these coincidences along with his popularity, make me think he is the last slot.
I will post about Hilde/the yellow slot next. Really sorry about the wall of text everyone. A lot to prove @_@
Edit: Storms are grey. I didn’t make that clear. Well, the sky turns grey during a storm. Does that make sense 0_0?
GhostTear
[13] Hero
damn was hoping top 8 would 3 out of 5.
Silver-wind
[05] Battler
So, if Yun-Seong is the grey slot, where does Hilde go? I admit, yellow doesn’t relate to Hilde in any way I can think of. But, if Hwang is too risky/expensive to introduce now, I honestly don’t see another choice besides Hilde (in terms of popularity). Some would associate red with Hilde too, but Haohamaru takes this color. So, I think Hilde may have just been given yellow. Still, why yellow?
DanteSC3
[14] Master
I really don't believe that the Soul Calibur or Soul Edge in the background have any relevance to anything, personally. My evidence being that neither Hwang nor Setsuka seek Soul Calibur, yet they're quite commonly believed to be yellow and pink. I know that Setsuka does get Soul Calibur in SoulCalibur IV, but I never really understood why she did, unless it was some kind of symbol of her getting over her revenge for Mitsurugi, but it seemed rather forced, because almost everyone in SoulCalibur IV got either Soul Edge, Soul Calibur, or both, and it didn't seem very rooted in reason. Like, for one silly example, Amy got Soul Edge... but why? Because Raphael was seeking Soul Calibur at this point, and it would keep him in check? But Raphael didn't even get his own rapier form of Soul Calibur... I don't think it means anything. Because if it did, for the sake of argument, Setsuka would be more aligned for Soul Edge in our ambiguous chart of swords, as her origin story would be tragic, where she begins her plot for revenge, definitely not an ally of good.
I do appreciate the speculation, though, at the same time, I really do wish they would just reveal them all, at the same time. I'm not sure what there is to gain by keeping us in the dark with no news and keeping everything a mystery.
I do appreciate the speculation, though, at the same time, I really do wish they would just reveal them all, at the same time. I'm not sure what there is to gain by keeping us in the dark with no news and keeping everything a mystery.
This is because they're unifying the story, and Wolfkrone soldiers would have been out there fighting against the evil in the original course of history, it's just that Wolfkrone wasn't "created" until SoulCalibur IV, so it's a "retcon" (but not really, because it doesn't change anything in the big picture) that we're seeing them now, just as a setup for future events where we'd actually see Hilde, letting us know they acknowledge her existence, but I still personally don't expect to see her until SoulCalibur VII.
Maybe, to some degree, but Cassandra and Amy were so reworked to where they're almost not recognizable to their previous forms, due to their new gimmicks and the general flashiness. I for one would actually hope that Hwang would not get such flamboyancy, because his style is more grounded like Mitsurugi and Sophitia, so I would think it would really require less work overall, unless they just completely lost his animation data from the Arcade Edition of SoulCalibur III. Thanks to FluffyQuack's digging, however, it seems pretty apparent to me that they still have, in-house, every animation that they've ever made, at some place or another.
Hwang's debut weapon is also Blue Storm (or even his follow up, Blue Thunder, relates to storms), so I'm not really sure that works in and of itself. I do lean towards grey being indicative of either Rock or Hilde, though... I really think if they wanted white, they could have made it work with their ideas, or even just chosen a different template. The biggest color association I have with Yun-seong, though, is red, due to his hair color and also red has played heavily into all of his outfits. Of our codenames (Stone, Yell, Star, Snow, Reptile, Yellow, if you're not in the loop on them), Yun-seong fits firmly into "star" for me (due to the "seong" in his name's character meaning "star", while we have a literal "yellow", which is what "Hwang" means, and then we get the color yellow? It's just too much. You namedropped me, so I dunno if you've read the theories on it, it's possible, but I figured I'd cover it just in case.
Hilde has some yellow trim on her flag on her primary weapon? That's something. But incredibly minor, all the same. If Hilde is any of the six codenames, I believe she falls into "yell", but that's the most contentious among them at that, the other candidate being Li Long, because of his Bruce Lee-isms. I dunno, it's possible we might see Hilde, but I just really don't think it fits the story, which is what they've been pushing harder than anything else.
Silver-wind
[05] Battler
Throughout speculating and reading everyone else’s speculation, it seems as though the swords meaning (or lack of it) can’t be determined (sadly lol). Before I continue though, I have another small theory about the swords lol.
The yellow slot shows a Soul calibur. To me this meant a good-ish character (Like Hilde or Hwang). Although, like you mentioned @DanteSC3 , who goes on the good and bad sides is kind of confusing.
The pink slot seems a little different. I actually really wanted to ask you what is going on there. I thought it was just Soul calibur again. But, the edges of the sword look odd. It looks Souledge sharp. But, the top is definitely Soul calibur. If this is a form of soul-embrace (please tell me if I am wrong. I can take it •_•.), then it represents Setsuka well. In her introduction, she really didn’t seem to care about Soulcalibur or Souledge (neutral/soul embrace like).
(please tell me if I am wrong. I can take it •_•.)
I will try to get to the rest of your post. Not easy to reply to everything. Also,your rebuttals scare me lol. Thank you for replying!
Also, thank you for directing me to the dlc forum @LisaK . Sorry to fill this forum with speculation. But, I do have a question. If I post in the other forum, will many members still see it? I really wanted to discuss this topic with everyone since the Invitational is happening now/tomorrow.
iliass
[07] Duelist
Haven’t read this thread in a while. Can someone be generous enough to save me some time and tell me if we’re getting an announcement tommorow or atleast speculation at that event? Thx :)