Broken Destiny Talim

SBA

TFNA
^^^ as long as it still combos after AS B+K im good

I can't see the video right now, but this shit sounds awesome! Cant wait to get my hands on it.
 

Lokim

[08] Mercenary
The new move looks like it might replace A+K and be High/Low. Both her tonfas are spinning and doing the charge animation and the right one is pretty high in the air. Could be a useful soul gauge move.
 

mikosu

Goderator of pink hearts
That's her CF attack (A+B+K). Dampy's CF attack didn't work the gauge very well so the others' might not either.
 

Ooofmatic

World Warrior
I talked to Kura the other day and he got a chance to try out Talim in BD. He didn't tell me much, but what he did tell me was that her Wind Sault K cancel is still there. Also, WS B+K does a new stun. It still combos into WS A+B, but you can also do other things such as another WS B+K.
 

Jaxel

Administrator
What really matters is the amount of block stun on her moves. Talim is punished FAR worse on whiff than any character in the game.
 

Vegeta

[09] Warrior
I talked to Kura the other day and he got a chance to try out Talim in BD. He didn't tell me much, but what he did tell me was that her Wind Sault K cancel is still there. Also, WS B+K does a new stun. It still combos into WS A+B, but you can also do other things such as another WS B+K.
It's not so much as a new stun as it is a bounce or "bound" sort of from tekken. I did it and was like WTF? lol. But yeah it still combos.
 

Dr_Tom

[09] Warrior
AS B+K 6 AS B+K does 63 damage, pretty nice except even the computer steps it like crazy. It's SO linear
 

ZeroEffect317

[13] Hero
tested a few things out in BD.

Assuming the frame data of moves in BD is the same as SC4...
>66A+B GB now gives +4 adv. on block instead of +1. Makes 1A+B/3B uninterruptable (useful)
>WC B:B GB is still minus on block but it's only -2 instead of -4
> Overall damage increase on combos and certain moves. (very useful)
>3BA only does 26 dmg instead of 30
> Windsault recover JF is still in the game
>AS B+K gives a bounce and combos with another AS B+K or AS A+B. (If you do AS A+B after AS B+K, you can't combo 2A+B afterwards anymore. So I don't know why you'd ever use it except maybe for ROs.)
>4AA is still garbage. Still doesn't combo on CH. (sucks)
> Overall Soul Gauge endurance increase. Hurts SG based strategies considerably. (sucks)
> 6A+B can now be quickstepped on reaction... (sucks)
> move properties seem to be similar overall. (frames, safety, etc.)
> AAB can combo on small characters after CH 1A+B
>overall movement in the game is faster which may/or may not make WC even less useful

That's all I got as I don't own the game
 

Dr_Tom

[09] Warrior
Some BD Talim Soul Guage stuff:

4B breaks in 8 1/2
2A+B breaks in 16
A+B+K(CF move) breaks in 8
6A+B breaks in 12
66A+B breaks in 15
66B breaks in 15
66A breaks in 20
44B breaks in 15
4B+K breaks in 12 but hits opponent negating CF stun.
33A breaks in 15

66K, 6K, 3K, and 4K don't seem to break Soul Guage at all. They damage it minimally and don't crack it for CF. Possibly useful if you're opponent is blinking and you want to save the CF for the next round.

will add more later
 

ZeroEffect317

[13] Hero
Yeah, that's right. I completely forgot that some attacks just can't break the gauge. They can weaken the gauge but the final hit must be from certain moves like 66B/6A+B/2A+B...etc.
 

Kura

[09] Warrior
this list is not sure because i have no enough time about try :(
so if have a PSP and BD i wish somebody check this list

A.A hit adv frame is +1

If i hit CH 1B enemy is down

A+K is auto guard(enemy is can't ducking by second motion)
 

Dr_Tom

[09] Warrior
Got bored after work so here's a complete list of Talim damage changes.


move SC4 BD
Horizontals
A 8 8
AA 17 18
AAB 35 43
AA6B 31 32
AA6BA 47 48
6A 17 18
6AA 26 26
6AK 30 38
3A 24 36
2A 8 10
1A 18 20
4A 18 18
4AA 40 40
4AK 38 38
WSA 20 30
7_8_9A 20 18
BTA 30 37
BT[A] 40 47
BT2A 10 14

Verticals
B 12 14
BB 25 28
6B 21 22
3B 14 14
3BA 30 26
3B[A] 40 40
2B 14 16
1B 18 22
4B 16 18
4BB 32 36
4B 41 48
236B 15 18
236 22 25
FC2B 16 18
FC3B 8 8
FC3BB 21 18
WSB 18 20
7_8_9B 28 28
BT B 24 20
BT 2B 16 20

Kicks
K 12 14
6K 18 20
3K 14 16
2K 12 12
1K 16 18
4K 12 14
FC2K 11 14
WSK 16 22
7_8_9K 20 20
BT K 18 22
BT 2K 12 16

Simultaneous Press
ICE WIND 50 66
6A+B 30 36
2A+B 24 26
1A+B 18 24
4A+B 30 36
WSA+B 30 40
B+K 50 65
BT B+K A+B 32 40 (same with UB)
A+K 24 30

8 way run
66A 26 26
33_99A 36 40
22_88A 28 28
11_77A 16 22
44A 20 20
44AA 40 40
44A[A] 50 50
66B 28 28
33_99B 20 26
33_99B6B 36 47
33_99AB:6B 42 54
22_88B 33 37
11_77B 20 28
44B 28 28
66K_[K] 15 20
33K 16 18
33KA 32 38
22_88K 18 21
11_77K 15 16
11_77KA 33 36
44K 32 38
66A+B 32 40
44A+B 30 36
sprint K 26 26

Throws
A+G 48 50
B+G 52 52
left 60 60
right 58 65
back 58 70
236B+G 214A_B 60 65

Wind Charmer
WC A 10 8
WC AA 18 18
WC AAB 34 38
WC B 12 12
WC BB 28 29
WC B*B 38 39
WC B:B 38 39
WC K 16 16
WC A+K 24 24
WC throw 35 36

Wind Sault
AS A 20 22
AS B 30 30
AS B:K 41 51
AS K 20 24
AS A+B 30 30
AS B+K 30 36
AS A+K 22 22

Wind Leap
WL A 20 20
WL B 30 30
WL K 30 33
WL A+B 85 85

that should be everything
 

Jaxel

Administrator
I dont get it... while some characters are getting HUGE damage buffs... Talim, who actually needed it, seems to be pretty negligable.