Patroklos Q&A/Discussion Thread

Dazzler said:
Anyone use 3B into 2B+K? 54 damage and seems like better Oki than other options
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I went back and looked at this. I could have sworn it was a combo on the training dummy only.

It seems to be distance dependent- it has less chance of hitting the closer you are (opponent can guard).

3B, 3B does about 5 pts less damage, but you recover faster, and the knockdown is untechable (opponent can tech after being hit with 2B+K). But I guess 2B+K's oki after tech is not so bad.

I just don't like that it's not consistent at all ranges. That smells like trouble to me.
 
Does Pat have any wallsplat moves that recover fast enough for him to do a grab after the wallsplat?

*Doesn't look like it. Damn. :( I was hoping to end a wall combo with 66B+G and do the CE tech trap and see how much it did. Oh well, probably woulda been broken anyways.
 
I thought 22A and 22AA wallsplat to his right and left and they recover fast enough to grab them. It might be distant dependent though, and 22AA isn't very reliable imo.
 
I tried 22A and it didn't work, didn't think about 22AA though I don't think that would work for what I'm trying either. In order for the 22B+G to not wall hit again I'd have to do it off the second wall hit in the combo, otherwise the CE tech trap wouldn't work.
 
Yeah but again I'm looking for a move that I can do after the first wall hit to cause a second wall hit I can grab out of so the 66B+G will NOT wall hit and I can do the tech trap. And 44B+K does kinda work but it is range dependent. I'm just gonna give up on this idea.
 
jonnitti said:
this was on the wiki, i dont know where to post this but whoever can edit it should change "mash" to "spin the joystick." even though we all of us already know that i play a lot of people who dont know how to reduce the number of hits properly
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Edited. Let me know if I should rephrase it.
 
K0rN_b4LL said:
Yeah but again I'm looking for a move that I can do after the first wall hit to cause a second wall hit I can grab out of so the 66B+G will NOT wall hit and I can do the tech trap. And 44B+K does kinda work but it is range dependent. I'm just gonna give up on this idea.
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any unless you're BT, in which case you get the backthrow.

3B W! 3B W! 66B (tech trap: front/back/right ->) 44B+K W! CE = 223. 44B+K Clean Hit kills. Right ukemi can sometimes whiff depending on angles, etc.
 
It can work, you just gave to do the 66B+K as soon as possible so he doesn't move forward any after the 66B.

Violent_Vodka said:
3B W! 3B W! 66B (tech trap: front/back/right ->) 44B+K W! CE = 223. 44B+K Clean Hit kills. Right ukemi can sometimes whiff depending on angles, etc.
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How is that a tech trap and not a combo? Do you just delay it a bit?
 
K0rN_b4LL said:
It can work, you just gave to do the 66B+K as soon as possible so he doesn't move forward any after the 66B.


How is that a tech trap and not a combo? Do you just delay it a bit?
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44B+K is suppose to catch the tech off 66B if I read it correctly.
 
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I was thinking it was 66B+K, I always get my 4 and 6 moves mixed up. :/
 
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