SCIV Ivy General Discussion & FAQ

Thx malek! that beats holding down a button anyday. :) I still need to macro A+B+K just bcos if all my fingers arent exact I still get errors which lead to stance change.

Malek the proud sponsor of CL 1BB+K hahahahaha
 
ok I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet
but I figured that you can do any WR moves from ground if you tap G first
ground-->gA+B works very well
 
Isnt WR simply done by any command while on the ground? I know if ur head towards, u can K+G to be in back turn when getting up.

Oh wats with the thumbs down rating of this thread? Is it bcos someone before didnt get their post replied? lol
Imo theres no need for antiIvy thread as she has a weakness in virtually all stances. Why an antithread when there are good players who have no trouble grinding down Ivys. XD
 
I think neoghalen is referring to this quick recovery glitch (at least I think it's a glitch) It's when you press something, there is no standing up animation, the character teleports to standing position and does the attack immediately. Something like this:

I've done this many times but I think it's a JF timing, difficult to reproduce. I wonder if instant WS A+B would beat Amy's wakeups?

About that thumbs down icon, it's funny, haven't noticed this earlier. It can only be changed by mod, and the last person who edited the first post was DittO about a month ago. What was he thinking? ;]
 
Perhaps this thumbs down icon was added before I even became a mod by the first mod (can't remember his name though), because I never use that function (putting icons in new threads).
Anyway, it was annoying now that i saw it, so i removed it ;p
 
I wanna talk about WP A+B Auto-Gi today and move with evasive property.



About AutoGi, here is a small list of where it can be used (THX to Ring):

Amy: 3BA, 1KA, 66A (slow, can be aGI on reaction)
Sophitia: 236AA, 236236AA, 11AA_[A] (even on hit, WP A+B owns this move!)
Setsuka: 66BA, 44AA, 6AA
Cassandra: 4BBA (useless because you can duck A)
Astaroth: 3KA_[A]
Kilik: 66AA, 44AA
Ivy: CL WS AA, CL 6A,A+K
S-Mina: 33AA, 44AA, WS AA

And I add to the list:
Xiang: 6BA
Night: WS AA



About evasive move right now:

Ring talk about:
CL 214B between Setsuka FC 3B:B which will hit her even if she don't do the last B.

I add:
CL 214B or CL 44A or SW 3A between Sophi B+K B.
CL 44A between Ivy SW 6B8 K.


Do you know some more ?
 
i thought WP A+B aGI most horizontal moves, including K and S-Low, but now lows.
i think it also aGI mitsu's 1A (not certain) and will hit 1[A]B before the B.
it should also aGI hilde's C1_2_3 A, but haven't tested this out yet. it's also good against maxi. the third hit of maxi's attack chain tend to be a horizontal. another good move against maxi is ivy's WP 4A+B. it stops a lot of maxi's relentless attack chains.

CL 214B can dodge X's 66A i think. i'd only done this once online so i'm not sure if this is an online glitch.
it can also dodge the second attack of Zas' 1BB (i think that's the command, i'm not familiar with Zas' command. it a mid ~ low combo where Zas drags the last low).
also, interestingly, CL 214B can easily dodge ivy's CL_SW 6A+B, and WP 1B.
 
i thought WP A+B aGI most horizontal moves, including K and S-Low, but now lows.
i think it also aGI mitsu's 1A (not certain) and will hit 1[A]B before the B.
it should also aGI hilde's C1_2_3 A, but haven't tested this out yet. it's also good against maxi. the third hit of maxi's attack chain tend to be a horizontal. another good move against maxi is ivy's WP 4A+B. it stops a lot of maxi's relentless attack chains.

CL 214B can dodge X's 66A i think. i'd only done this once online so i'm not sure if this is an online glitch.
it can also dodge the second attack of Zas' 1BB (i think that's the command, i'm not familiar with Zas' command. it a mid ~ low combo where Zas drags the last low).
also, interestingly, CL 214B can easily dodge ivy's CL_SW 6A+B, and WP 1B.
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Yes, most of these are applicable, however, malek is talking about evading/punishing after confirming an opponent's attack string that has been blocked (or in some cases not blocked ex: Sophy's 11AA).
Now that I think about it, I'd really like to know If there are any uses (in terms of evading) of SW 44A. It's a pity that this move that leads to perhaps the most damaging Ivy's combo (CH) doesn't have decent use (or haven't we discover any yet???).

A bit not that related but for the sake of flashyness:
When speaking for evade properties in WP (more like TC properties) it's funny how useful are the WP 1_2_3B+K series moves against Taki (especially 3B+K). These moves up close and against characters that tend to approach a lot make nice use of their TC properties sending opponent away. Taki's possesion mixups and aerial attacks are fairly weak against these moves. Of course it's not a win strategy, but you'll be amazed by how many times these ranged attacks WILL find target up close or in the air. ;p
 
oh i c!

i think 214B can dodge between X's 3AK.

Additionally, i found SE A+K and WP 11A dodges some weird attacks... also X's on the ground A+B has almost the same reach as ivy's WP 1AA....
 
I used SW 44A from time to time after Just Impact.
There are some moves that are more easy to Just Impact (ex Yoshi 33B B+K or Setsu 1AA), so it can be a good option to use it there. If you messed JI, it's still garanted but the damage are very low.
 
This may sound very n00bie of me but what are Ivy's best options against Mitsu stance?

Whatever i try either misses or i just get hit... :(
 
There's no universal method vs his stances. It's mostly a guessing game, risky for both characters, but more rewarding for Mitsu imo (at least in this case). You need to learn what he can do and how to punish him when he does a wrong move. You should also check this out: http://www.8wayrun.com/f23/amy-vs-mitsurugi-t4109/ Belial explained there how it works (it's for Amy though but it might give you some idea)
 
Wouldn't her iWS A+B's aGI (dunno in which stance) kill a lot of his mixups? Can't test right now, was just a thought.
 
Nope, I don't think so. Instant WS moves don't work here very well. Not to mention her WS A+B is -20 on hit. Probably CL 214B will evade most of his stuff (but still there's also his strong mid aGI, so spamming this move all the time against his stances will result in aGi counter sooner or later)
 
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