Alex.J
[14] Master
The community is to blame for shaping opinions on balance.
I already did. But watching by saying "just look he won some match" doesn't mean anything. You have to put your analysis deeper. The main question is "why did it happen ?". I invite you to watch them again, and try to answer this question properly.
Anyway, tier raisonement computed with tournament results is a big mistake. (or casual results, or online results...)
-Because the human factor has still something to do (basics, mind game, management of the preasure etc)
-The game is still young, no one is playing every MU properly. The general level is still low.
(exemple just to remember :, is zaz-ivy balanced is SCIV ?)
The tier list can have an impact on tournament results, but the opposite is not true (for instance it's not because OmegaDR and Keev won some tournaments with Nightmare that this character had to be top tier, and that he derserved to be nerf)
Shen yuan, are you talking about this alpha player ?
Are you kidding me ? :-)
But, yeah, at the beginning of the game he played Siegfried a little, you're right. Here some vids, what conclusions can you do with ?
But well, serious question now, what do you know about Siegfried ?? Do you know something about his MU ? In this case maybe you can come in Siegfried SA and explain everyones how to manage them ! Or did you just watch some shen yuan vids one year ago to get this conclusion ? Or any other Siegfried player who was winning some matchs ? Did you do the same with raphael or any other character to get your general conclusion ?
About what you like and how, I don't know, and to be honest I absolutely don't care. :-) . I guess you misunderstood me.
The standard norms of thinking ? Are you talking about your standard norms of thinking ?
Most of people think that the game is balanced ? is that a "feeling" or did you make a serious study about this ?
On my side I know that a lot of players left the game or change their main characters only because of the balance. In some countries Viola is banned... Can all of this happen if most of people think that the game is balanced ? in this case why ?
Edit : to avoid any personnal attack. my results at SCV are better than they were at SCIV. In SCIV Siegfried was totally ok IMO, a solid mid tier. I still think that SCIV was not balanced either. Anyway my opinion about the balance is an overall conclusion.
Talk about missing the point, I brought up good players doing good things with their characters to show it's possible to win and do well with them. This isn't the only factor in terms of judging tier placement or viability, but it's definitely and important one. It's important to not get carried away with looking at victories, but I think everyone changed their opinion a little bit when Decapon won Evo. Why? Because some people had low opinions of Tira and here is someone winning one of the biggest tourneys ever with her. This is what we call evidence. Although IRM has never won any big tourneys, he has done very well in tourneys with Maxi using a very limited move set. It definitely opened my eyes on the character and I think I can say likewise for a lot of people. If we aren't taking real life into consideration, we are just theory fighting. Although this is just a videogame and you are a giant idiot. I like to look at all information and decisions as critically as possible.
As far as the general consensus, I agree I didn't take a poll. My bad, but It takes no effort to see what the average opinion of the game is. Lots of players including a lot of the top players will agree this game is very balanced. Most people will agree Viola is broke, but in terms of viability through out the cast, it's quite large. This game has a gigantic mid tier section. Could Viola use some fixes? sure. But there is a reason why most communities have a lot of different characters being used in tourneys. In a true unbalanced game like MVC2, you really do only get the top tier characters getting played. Pretty much storm and magneto were on every team, this isn't the case for SC5. Why? Because most people can play the character they like and do well with them.
The real question is that do YOU know Siegfried? It really seems like you don't. You seem to take it in your hands to be some type of expert on the subject, but you aren't even in the running. What makes you qualified to be the official on the subject? Because you lose and complain? Seems like you should let the real players talk then.