Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

WuHT said:
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Pretty cool concept art:
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Grøh just becomes cooler the more I look at him. As Maximilian Dood put it, he's "80s edgy anime, which is the epitome of badass anime".
 
AndyrooSC said:
You bored? Me too here is some of my Zasalamel in action including some vs top level players: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTc8eITQXPna5FNaZkywbAQ
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Great matches man!
Discovered you from violent vodka matches (was studying Tira)

WuHT said:
Maybe someone else mentioned this but:

Is Tira a lot bigger than I expected ? She seems even larger than Taki (the 2nd largest female).
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Well Tira is European (supposedly) she could just be like Lili and is naturally tall.
 
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HackNslash said:
Well Tira is European (supposedly) she could just be like Lili and is naturally tall.
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I don't recall her being this massive from the prior games (also her in-game bio height puts her a good 4 inches under taki).

Then again Talim is also way bigger than what her bio states.
 
I can't believe we are two weeks away for this game to finally be released. I feel happy because I will finally be able to play the game at last and I was keeping busy watching a lot of gameplay videos on YouTube. I am also going to feel a bit sad that all the speculation we all had for almost a year will come to an end and the hype train will have a stop soon. Most of this was fun and my only hope left will be for this game to sell well which I hope does so we can keep on getting more Soul Calibur games in the future. Two weeks left!
 
The saddest part about the game being released in 2 weeks is that I won't be coming here anymore for quite some time since I'll be way too busy playing xD I'll miss you all (for the time I am away)

About the LA build, it seems weird they'd give an old build to try, but it would be weirder if it's a newer build with content that was removed. Also, if it's the gold build and they ship the game like that... people would get pissed to buy an incomplete game. Imagine getting the game a bit earlier and having to play a game with missing assets :/

Now; about Inferno's release... don't you think it's because it was leaked? They could have saved him for next week, or even the day before release. I'm not saying I believe we still have hidden unlockable characters, but if it were to be true, this is my take on why Inferno was revealed.
 
Norik said:
I'm surprised there aren't more people talking about the suspicious new gameplay that surfaced this morning from Bamco Latin America. The absence of Azwel was brought up briefly, but there is plenty more going on in the video. The build they show differs significantly from the beta and everything else we've seen so far.
In the video we see a new CSS:
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Obviously the first thing to note here is the absence of Azwel, whose place is occupied by one of the mysterious white circles. This lends credence to the idea that the circles represent unlockables and not DLC (though I could see them serving both purposes). Sadly the player cameras cover the bottom of the screen, so we cannot see whether those two small circles are still at the corners.

Interestingly, the character slots are now grayed out while the cursor is not on them—a design choice abandoned in the E3 build. For reference, here's the CSS from most recent press build:
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The stage selection screen is also quite different from what we've been seeing:
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Why are do so many stages lack their screenshots? This seems like a rather odd thing to remove. The characters are also not shown in the background here.

Stages without a proper screenshot have a curious placeholder: the coliseum from SCV. The stage they chose here was Kunpaetku Shrine, but they all have this same image.
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Upon closer inspection, it also looks like the positions of the stages have been rearranged. Here's the arrangement from the older builds:
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It's hard to tell because of the low-quality recording, but they've done something with the lighting and the textures. It's very subtle so you'll probably miss it if you're not paying attention, but something about Taki's face looked odd to me so I started to do some comparisons. You can see the new build to the left, and the older version to the right:
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Taki's face looks different, with deeper shadows around her eyes. There also appears to be a general reduction of shadow contrast. Hair rendering also seems improved, but again that could just be the low-resolution recording.

Also Taki's protruding nipples have been nerfed pretty hard.
The lifebars at 100% health are now violet!
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At first I thought it was an optical illusion resulting from the poor white-balance of the recording, but nope! All the other colors remain identical, it's just the 100% health color that is now different. I played around with the brightness, contrast, hue, and saturation of these screenshots to match the deep blue we've been seeing since the E3 build, but I couldn't do it without massively distorting the image.
Overall, it looks like the UI in this official namco stream is substantially different from what we've seen in the press builds and in the online beta.

So what does all of this mean? I think we might be seeing the final build of the game on the disc, before the day-1 patch. I can't see them dramatically changing the UI and upgrading the graphics two weeks before release for a simple press build. It makes more sense that this official namco subsidiary had a copy of the final game and decided to stream some matches for promotional purposes. Since we know there will be a day-1 patch, adding missing stage screenshots could be among the things it fixes.

@Sectus proposed it might be an older build, but that's inconsistent with the upgraded graphics and the presence of two characters announced after Azwel. It just seems implausible to me that a pre-release press build was developed, never seen, and replaced with a different build which removed all the graphical improvements of the previous one. It makes more sense that the Azwel build was sent out to press outlets before the implementation of these final touches, and the game was later finalized and printed onto the discs. As @Frayhua pointed out in the roster thread, a closed press build with at least Astaroth's stage has been around since NVIDIA's video in June. That could very well have been the build we've seen this past month. The strange situation with the stages is the only thing that puts this timeline in question, but that doesn't particularly favor one explanation over the other.

Regardless, the main takeway here is that at least some of the small white circles are empty slots for unlockable characters. Get hype?
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I'm going to say that this is an older build, mainly because the graphics just don't seem quite as polished, also I'd be pretty upset if they nerfed Taki's nips two weeks before release. That shit better be on the day 1 patch with the rest of the missing "assets".

All jokes aside, the fact that Azwel's character slot matches the rest of the place holder slots is -very- interesting. Perhaps when this build was made they had intended to reveal him after Cervantes and Raphael? Whatever the case, this definitely bodes well for the possibility of more unlockable characters.
 
Norik said:
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So I’ve looked at some of the previous builds, and I’m thinking that this is most likely an older build, possibly one that was never meant to be publicly shown:

- At the very beginning of the stream, you can see what appears to be a title screen. However, it looks very early, as it's completely blank other than the Title itself and the "Press any button" prompt. It also uses the old font that was used before the official logo was revealed. Could just be an image they used for the beginning of the stream, but I don't know why they would do that when we've already seen the title screen a million times.

- At 56:18, one of the players gets a trophy, and the text and image looks to be placeholder. However, in the footage posted by IGN way back during comic con, they also get a trophy, with a proper name and image associated with it.

- Like Autumn pointed out, the background of the character select screen matches the one from the first build of the game we've seen, without all the announced characters of course.

- The placement of Cloud Sanctuary in this build matches the placement of it in the build used during Pax East and final round, with the snow stage right next to it.
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- This one I'm not 100% on, so correct me if I'm wrong. But it looks like the camera heavily favors the 1P in this build. The camera was like that for the first couple of builds, but changed for the E3 build. It looks like this was removed for versus mode, but is still present during single player modes like Libra of Souls. This is incorrect, scratch that.

- And some smaller things to note: The effects on Taki's blade seem less detailed, and the game slows down quite a lot after selecting their stages the first time. Almost looked like it crashed for a second.
 
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Do you wanna know what bugs the hell out of me? It's the fact we still do not have the fourth game mode revealed on the website. They've updated the website with characters, videos, images, and the special area since online, arcade, museum mode, etc were all revealed but the haven't done anything with any of those or anything else yet.
 
kyrt said:
Do you wanna know what bugs the hell out of me? It's the fact we still do not have the fourth game mode revealed on the website. They've updated the website with characters, videos, images, and the special area since online, arcade, museum mode, etc were all revealed but the haven't done anything with any of those or anything else yet.
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Maybe it's Quick Battle.
 
kyrt said:
Do you wanna know what bugs the hell out of me? It's the fact we still do not have the fourth game mode revealed on the website. They've updated the website with characters, videos, images, and the special area since online, arcade, museum mode, etc were all revealed but the haven't done anything with any of those or anything else yet.
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Either they just want to have some excitement left for fans/players to discover on there own and keeping secrets or it's just nothing and people just setting themselves up for disappointment again. 2 weeks needs to hurry before people go insane.
As for the lasted build, that doesn't make sense to give them an old build unless they screwing with those people. Also how about more comparison shots?
 
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WuHT said:
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Pretty cool concept art:
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Well this explains why his swords are so long in the character artwork versus the actual model. Seems like the original plan was to make him a dual-wielder originally that could combine his swords into the doubleblade form via a stance. Instead they went and reversed the style.

Also, this makes it pretty clear that the blue-blade is the calibur form and the whiter blade is the soul edge half.
 
Windstar said:
Well this explains why his swords are so long in the character artwork versus the actual model. Seems like the original plan was to make him a dual-wielder originally that could combine his swords into the doubleblade form via a stance. Instead they went and reversed the style.

Also, this makes it pretty clear that the blue-blade is the calibur form and the whiter blade is the soul edge half.
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Can't wait to know the story behind the Aval Organization and my little chevalier mal fet :D
 
JohnMcKee said:
Can't wait to know the story behind the Aval Organization and my little chevalier mal fet :D
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I don't think it's going to be anything super riveting. It's even looking like his primary focus isn't going after Nightmare, but Azwel.

Still, I'll be pleasantly surprised if there's a twist or two here. I'm keeping my expectations in check.
 
Windstar said:
I don't think it's going to be anything super riveting. It's even looking like his primary focus isn't going after Nightmare, but Azwel.

Still, I'll be pleasantly surprised if there's a twist or two here. I'm keeping my expectations in check.
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Indeed, but I'm sure we'll get to know why the members are slightly malfested (or what seems like it) and how they can control it, blah blah ^^ I'm a lore guy :D
 
CelestialZodiac said:
I can't believe we are two weeks away for this game to finally be released. I feel happy because I will finally be able to play the game at last and I was keeping busy watching a lot of gameplay videos on YouTube. I am also going to feel a bit sad that all the speculation we all had for almost a year will come to an end and the hype train will have a stop soon. Most of this was fun and my only hope left will be for this game to sell well which I hope does so we can keep on getting more Soul Calibur games in the future. Two weeks left!
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JohnMcKee said:
The saddest part about the game being released in 2 weeks is that I won't be coming here anymore for quite some time since I'll be way too busy playing xD I'll miss you all (for the time I am away)

About the LA build, it seems weird they'd give an old build to try, but it would be weirder if it's a newer build with content that was removed. Also, if it's the gold build and they ship the game like that... people would get pissed to buy an incomplete game. Imagine getting the game a bit earlier and having to play a game with missing assets :/

Now; about Inferno's release... don't you think it's because it was leaked? They could have saved him for next week, or even the day before release. I'm not saying I believe we still have hidden unlockable characters, but if it were to be true, this is my take on why Inferno was revealed.
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I'm a tad jealous of you all since i won't be able to play it at launch so,...i'm just gonna lurk here in a semi-dead thread (kidding). But, to be sincere, i hope you folks have a great time with it!!
 
Yesterday I got a chance to play Soucalibur VI at Milan Games Week, there where only three consoles to play from and it was the E3 built, but a lot of people gathered, praising the graphics and the gameplay, I would say that it was pretty popular there were people playing all day.
 
Niwona said:
Well Taki textures looked way better. The hair was improved and there was better depth to the face, so I don't know why they would go backward. I will assume that was a newer build.
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Yeah I thought the same. Asides from they cut her nipples off, she definitely looks better. Sjws win again I guess.
 
MTK said:
As for the lasted build, that doesn't make sense to give them an old build unless they screwing with those people.
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I agree with that, but the whole thing itself is weird. Why would they replace the stage images with placeholder text for the final build? They've had their screenshots for the builds we've seen beforehand. It's possible they were just sent the wrong build, isn't that what happened with Melbourne?
 
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