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And guess what? i lost AGAIN 4:5. After leading 4:2 i guess the docvizzo syndrom started and i decided to just dont even try to win for two matches...

Am i the only one who starts playing like a scrub with a comfortable leading??
 
ha actually all the geneva players tell me to play mitsurigi :)

But i dont know. I have to play Cervantes in Cannes. Everybody is going to hate on me if i switch to Mitsu :)

But i tried to use a lot more 1K this time, sometimes i just got poked out since furzy is so aggresive and cervants rarely has move that give much + on Hit, so i need time to find my setups....
 
doc: if he is agressive use more 44B , this move is very good! probably telling you the obvious but anyway. I want to see those vids!
 
Belial said:
Docvizzo: Switch to Mitsurugi, I know Furzy is powerless against him...
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actually i'm powerless against you :p but we'll see that next time I play you ^^ I heard you're not coming to Cannes?? Why is that?

docvizzo said:
Am i the only one who starts playing like a scrub with a comfortable leading??
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Is it you who plays like a scrub or do I get some SuperSayajin powers when I'm about to lose ;)

But i tried to use a lot more 1K this time, sometimes i just got poked out since furzy is so aggresive and cervants rarely has move that give much + on Hit, so i need time to find my setups....
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I don't get why you don't use the advantage you get from 1K instead of trying to put a mix-up on yoshi??


Sorry for the delay, I'll try to post the videos tomorrow.
 
true... still, go with your fastest moves like what is that move? 6K I think, do you have the advantage from there?
 
6K is i14, so that would be i13 in that case...iMCF will get you nice damage since you'll get a ch...i think you did this in freeplay at least.

I dont think i can punish your iMCF attempt by tech jumping with 8[B+K] since iMCF recovery will be to short, i guess its the same with iTP, normally i cant punish your "whiffed" MCF.

Thats the reason i normally dont do followups after 1K anymore. Right now i dont see a good Solution against iMCF apart from maybe 8B, but i guess even thats too slow. 8K should work but who cares about that chip damage, shoudnt stop you from doing MCF.

Its the same with bK against Yoshi, you can play the same games i can play with you and your 8K just kills so many options...and if i want to punish you for that i have to go for huge risk with a iGDR air hit.

I think Yoshi can deal with 1K and bK pressure a lot better than other chars actually...and your doind it quite good :P
Im just gonna continue to spam 3A+B all day, Throw like a whore and need to work on my punishment, FC A+BBB instead of WS A against FC 3K and DGF K...and maybe i should block them more often :P
 
DocVizzo: 1K, 6K_throw is still effective, imo. It seems like the fear of iMCF is already implanted deep within you, though. Muahahaha. Good job, Furzy!

bK and/or stepping are still valid solutions to iMCF. The Cervy - Yoshi matchup turns into a game of safety and yomi. Who can read their opponent best and force a mistake? I can totally see your guys' match turning into that.

Why don't you like WS A, aK into BT mix-ups?
 
to beat iMCF and 2A after 1K, 9B+K (the jump over with a hit of both swords in the back) that guarantees aB on hit, a lot of damage and not easy to counter =) i dont know if it punishes iMCF but it does punish 2A interrupts
 
it doesn't, but either way i'm in forced FC after 1K so I still think it's a good move! I'd have to RCC, iMCF which is annoying :p
 
Belial: I think MCF Recovery is to short to get punished by 8_9 {B+K}, of course it works against 2A very good, Furzys ate sooo many iTPs against his 2A after bK, i think he got pretty carefull with it.

Well its a mixup for both, i guess this Matchup is quite the same for both, 5:5. But i dont see a advantage for Cervantes or Yoshimitsu, since all his good Knockdowns can be punished quite good by Cervy and he can punish almost anything from Cervy, but with less damage.

Whats your impression Hajime? 5:5 also?
 
NEW VIDS

Docvizzo VS Furzy – First to 5 – 16dec09: 4-5

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Part 3:

I'll post the Docvizzo VS Cliff vids in the cervantes section but too tired to do it now, still have to encode the vids...
 
I'll try and record some vids with my bro over the holiday. He reps Cervy and we know each others style inside and out, so it makes for some boring (or intense, according to KrayzieCD) matches.


Furzy said:
it doesn't, but either way i'm in forced FC after 1K so I still think it's a good move! I'd have to RCC, iMCF which is annoying :p
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Yeah. I've tested it. It's difficult to RCC, iMCF when you're taking the hit, because you're not directly in control of your timing. I gave up on this idea, because in theory it sounds amazing, but in practice it's stupidly difficult. I did try and use it against Botsu and Hates for a while...

WS A, aK, mix-up

BT, G iMCF beats all of Cervy's options after aK. Unfortunately, your timing has to be amazing. I was maybe 50% on this with a 3 frame window. Hehe. Was worth a try, though!

docvizzo said:
Whats your impression Hajime? 5:5 also?
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Without going into detail, I'd say it's 5:5. Neither character has a serious advantage over the other.
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Furzy:

Just watched one video so far, but I wanted to post before I forgot.

- Be prepared to punish if you're going to step. I find that 33B is easy to access and a safe way to punish them if they whiff. Step into 6K2K is also viable. Some good stepping in the first vid, but you seem like you're unsure of what to do after you step something. Also, step to Cervy's right. Stepping to Cervy's right avoids just about everything including bK.

- Use 3K! It can be used to stop Cervy's B2 gimmick. 3K stops anything Cervy can do after you block it once. That includes iTP.

- Don't let him roll around. Sometimes you get a knockdown on him and you commit yourself to 66A+B at point blank range, which will always miss if the opponent rolls. You also go for DGF mix-ups, which Doc gets away from nowadays. This puts you into a vulnerable position, when you could be forcing him to stand and applying pressure.

- Consider using throws as an anti-step tool.
 
- Be prepared to punish if you're going to step. I find that 33B is easy to access and a safe way to punish them if they whiff. Step into 6K2K is also viable. Some good stepping in the first vid, but you seem like you're unsure of what to do after you step something. Also, step to Cervy's right. Stepping to Cervy's right avoids just about everything including bK.
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Yeah like I said, i'm trying to improve my stepping. Actually i read some "noob topic" to find out that I didn't really use stepping but 8WR most of the time! (yeah, i'm a little ashamed lol ^^) I was using it a lot in SC2 because there was this little animation with dust, you know? It's gonna take a little time but i think i can improve my stepping even more.
You're right, at the moment, i'm a little unsure what to do, my goal is to use step, 6K2K consistently. Nice to hear the improvement is visible though! ^^

- Use 3K! It can be used to stop Cervy's B2 gimmick. 3K stops anything Cervy can do after you block it once. That includes iTP.
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I knooooow! >_< I have so much trouble including this into my game! I never think about it when I'm playing except at the end of rounds to finish the opponent!

- Consider using throws as an anti-step tool.
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?? I know throws are good anti-steps but I don't see where it'd be that useful since I don't think doc is stepping my moves that much?? anywhere specific?

Looking forward to the vids of you and your brother! Thanks for the advice!
 
Furzy: Err, you're right. You can just 8WR most of the time. haha. That's probably how I usually get 33B. =/

The awesome thing about 3K, is if you hit, you can keep spamming 3K until they block it. They can't do anything! I learned this from DrDogg.

I'll have to watch the vids again. For me, when I'm playing Hates and Botsu, it's usually when they're stepping in anticipation of an iMCF or some other linear movethey think they can get away from. Using throws as anti-step has also carried over to my matches against Ceirnian (solid Hilde player). In fact, I'd put throws at the top of the anti-step list, because Ceirnian has stepped my AAs, 6As, 6Ks, 3Ks, and anything I used to consider decent or great anti-step. Late 3K being the only thing that really catches everything.


Damn, I want to play Calibur against someone. >_<
 
Hilde's step is not Cervantes's ^^ Come to Cannes if you want to play! I'll try and kick your ass in a mirror match ;)
 
Or you can 3K (on hit), bA (will be i13 at the fastest)... except on amy and taki, etc... And, throws can be amazing anti-step, I definatley agree, but that depends on range, I love 6A, but what are the flaws in using this move to catch step???
 
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