Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

Lore-wise Cassandra probably doesn’t have a reason to fight since Sophitia probably isn’t too busy being a mom. And currently has the weapons Cassie steals.

Plus if you believe in the blurred names seen on the story mode menu, Cassandra doesn’t look likely to appear. Maybe as DLC...
 
Lore-wise Cassandra probably doesn’t have a reason to fight since Sophitia probably isn’t too busy being a mom. And currently has the weapons Cassie steals.

Plus if you believe in the blurred names seen on the story mode menu, Cassandra doesn’t look likely to appear. Maybe as DLC...

Rothion reforges Cassandras weapons later (the pair with the pink sheild) and, while Im not sure if she'll be in the story, she should DEFINITELY be in the roster.

Hell, after PS created her they said F it and made you unlock Sophi in 2 and every game afterwards lol

Out of SCII she is top 3 most important to appear.

Cassandra
Raphael
Talim
(Necrid)

Aside from all that shes only one of the most popular characters in the series...

And I keep seeing this "unique" style argument that, honestly, doesnt hold water.
Cass is as much like Sophi as Sieggy is like Nightmare (hella different)
Also odd when people want the broken cancer that is Amy. (and all her iterations)
 
Cassandra and Seong Mi-na are in the same boat for quite a bit of things:

  • Tomboyish, headstrong personalities
  • Relevance in the grand storyline revolving around their insistence on bringing a family member/surrogate family member home (Sophitia and Yun-seong, respectively)
  • Weapon/fighting style shared with someone that is competitively more viable than they are (Cassandra - Sophitia, Seong Mi-na - Kilik)
Granted, Cassandra is just a bit more well-off than Mi-na is in terms of playstyle (Cassandra wasn't shit tier like Mi-na was, but Sophitia was still the better Alexandra), but they've got to rework her story a bit so she's not just a satellite character in Sophitia's storyline.
 
Also kind of skeptical about having Cassie around when there’s a chance Lizzy has the sword back. Mi-Na’s weapon at least is different enough from Kilik’s. Same for Hwang and Xianghua who does get some curved swords iirc.
 
It would be sweet if we got a game more frequently than every 5 years after this.
I don't mind the 5 year gaps, per se. It's really up to Namco and the community to keep the game alive. If Namco supports the game w/ maybe a yearly balance patch, new characters, etc, and ppl still play, then a 3-year life span would be easy and ideal, w/ a 2-year down time for development.

But I'm w/ you, I'm excited for the franchise to just be back. Last year I was thinking if I'd ever see a new SC again. I'm just really glad I get to go back to my (semi-)roots.
 
Cassandra and Seong Mi-na are in the same boat for quite a bit of things:

  • Tomboyish, headstrong personalities
  • Relevance in the grand storyline revolving around their insistence on bringing a family member/surrogate family member home (Sophitia and Yun-seong, respectively)
  • Weapon/fighting style shared with someone that is competitively more viable than they are (Cassandra - Sophitia, Seong Mi-na - Kilik)
Granted, Cassandra is just a bit more well-off than Mi-na is in terms of playstyle (Cassandra wasn't shit tier like Mi-na was, but Sophitia was still the better Alexandra), but they've got to rework her story a bit so she's not just a satellite character in Sophitia's storyline.
This is why I kind of have Cassandra and Seong Mi-na in a hanging in the balance limbo on whether they would be included in the roster. They have an equal chance to be there or not be there but there doesn't seem to be enough room for the both of them. Seong Mi-na also has stronger ties to Hwang, who probably won't make it in, but Yun-seong has ties to Talim, who is all but confirmed.

In either of their cases, I feel like they wouldn't be in the storyline (one of the three characters who are omitted along with Grøh's father and who I'm supposing will be Yun-seong not in the story due to Talim being in the story and him just tagging along and not being overtly important) and being in the bottom left corner as was proposed by either @Vergeben or @Hayate I forget now, that the less relevant cast would go there. Cassandra has a slight edge to me because she is tied to Sophitia like Yun-seong is tied to Talim, but Seong Mi-na is tied to Yun-seong who is tied to Talim, so her chain is weaker.

I would also put Amy/Viola in with them, but her inclusion is implicit on Raphael for story reasons if she's going to be Amy, unless they rewrite her to be Viola from the start and possibly allied with Grøh as @fallacie suggested, I could actually see them doing that, as a way to bring back Z.W.E.I. and Viola and actually flesh out their stories this time... albeit without Raphael this time, possibly. But I really hope Raphael makes it in, and if he doesn't, I'm going to be super sad.
 
That is your answer to who is coming to the roster. There will be no Soul Calibur 2, Soul Calibur 3, Soul Calibur 4, or Soul Calibur 5 characters in the base roster. Your hopes for a Setsuka, Raphael, Tira, Cassandra, Yunsung, Hilde, Algol, Dampierre, Viola, ZWEI, Amy, are entirely rested upon DLC, or a CAS-style. They are unlikely to be in the game otherwise, much less in the story mode (though there could be cameos).
Then we've got Zasalamel, and most probably Talim...
 
Actually, without Yun-Seong confirmed in the game, do you think Talim's story will be changed to follow another chaser of the sword? There are several and her story could fit without it changing their stories.
 
Actually, without Yun-Seong confirmed in the game, do you think Talim's story will be changed to follow another chaser of the sword? There are several and her story could fit without it changing their stories.
It's always possible, of course, but I figure that Yun-seong is implicitly confirmed, just personally. If not Yun-seong, really her only options are to tag along with Team Kilik, which I don't see happening, or Sophitia, who being a central pillar might not be the best choice if Talim wants to have any spotlight. I really don't think Talim is a Yoshimitsu person; that would be an incredibly strange duo. Mitsurugi always rides solo, and Siegfried and Nightmare is generally a 1v1.
 
It's always possible, of course, but I figure that Yun-seong is implicitly confirmed, just personally. If not Yun-seong, really her only options are to tag along with Team Kilik, which I don't see happening, or Sophitia, who being a central pillar might not be the best choice if Talim wants to have any spotlight. I really don't think Talim is a Yoshimitsu person; that would be an incredibly strange duo. Mitsurugi always rides solo, and Siegfried and Nightmare is generally a 1v1.

To be fair Talim sensed the evil in the wind and decided to do something about it. Yun-Seong is only important to her story in the sense that he is looking for the sword for the wrong reasons.

Who else is looking for the wrong reasons?
 
Out of SCII she is top 3 most important to appear.

Cassandra
Raphael
Talim
(Necrid)
This would be a good time to support your statement. Cassandra was a special char in Smash Court Tennis 2, but so was Raphael.

Cassandra wasn't the destined battle for the most iconic character (Nightmare by far) and none of the guest characters.

Lore-wise she wasn't half-intended to be the new wielder of soul edge before SC3 happened too (this one is iffy).
Aside from all that shes only one of the most popular characters in the series...
Lol I suppose you can say she's top 20 in popularity easily. She managed to make the instructional manga for SC4 along with Hilde, so thats something worth mentioning
 
Regarding the characters that made their appearance in SC2, providing the story covers that time period to some degree then nothing is stopping them from appearing in SC6

Then we've got Zasalamel, and most probably Talim...
Zasalamel is immortal and operates in the shadows. This is why when I saw him in SC6 I knew he wouldn't conflict with the established lore which is something that can't be really said about the others unless you cover the time period which they appear.
 
Yun-Seong is only important to her story in the sense that he is looking for the sword for the wrong reasons.
Like Mi-Na in Soul Edge or Hwang in Soul Calibur, he seeks Soul Edge to defend Korea. I wouldn't judge this as wrong reasons. He simply doesn't believe that "Sword of Salvation" is evil.
maybe Taki gets tempted? She is on the right side of the selection screen, implying some relation to Soul Edge, perhaps.
Mitsurugi should change slot with Taki, since he is seeking for power, unlike her who wants to destroy Soul Edge ...
 
I must say that I find it weird how most of the people here are fine with Astarock and Killik replacing Rock and Mina, the original weapon owners, but for some odd reason that doesn't work for Raph/Amy (even though they don't play at all the same, but nobody care about that :p).
Plus the same way people want's Cassandra even though we already have Sophtitia in the game, if they really end up throwing in Cassandra (same for Mina and Rock) in the game but no Raph and Amy I would be really butthurt tbh.
I get it that Cassandra is more popular than Raph and Amy, but that' not an excuse to do something like that.
 
I must say that I find it weird how most of the people here are fine with Astarock and Killik replacing Rock and Mina, the original weapon owners, but for some odd reason that doesn't work for Raph/Amy (even though they don't play at all the same, but nobody care about that :p).
Plus the same way people want's Cassandra even though we already have Sophtitia in the game, if they really end up throwing in Cassandra (same for Mina and Rock) in the game but no Raph and Amy I would be really butthurt tbh.
I get it that Cassandra is more popular than Raph and Amy, but that' not an excuse to do something like that.
I don't use Raphael, but having Cassandra in the game and Raph out is an illogical nonsense. We have few slots left, they must be filled with chars who have an iconic own style.
 
I must say that I find it weird how most of the people here are fine with Astarock and Killik replacing Rock and Mina, the original weapon owners, but for some odd reason that doesn't work for Raph/Amy (even though they don't play at all the same, but nobody care about that :p).
Plus the same way people want's Cassandra even though we already have Sophtitia in the game, if they really end up throwing in Cassandra (same for Mina and Rock) in the game but no Raph and Amy I would be really butthurt tbh.
I get it that Cassandra is more popular than Raph and Amy, but that' not an excuse to do something like that.
Other than Raphael (maybe) ending up out of the game, there is nothing weird about any of the facts you mentioned. Quite simply, Kilik and Astaroth are more interesting than their counterparts, while Cassandra is interesting enough for people to want to tolerate her style's similarity to Sophitia's.
 
I'd wager that's because Astaroth and Kilik as individual characters are relatively more interesting than the "original weapon owners."
Also, Cassandra's style is different from Sophitia's. It's unique and always has been, but it's evolved drastically over time to differentiate it a lot from Sophi's moveset at this point. I think it's fine to be disappointed if she makes it in but Raph doesn't, but that's not an excuse to undersell her. Cassandra isn't automatically rendered pointless just because Sophi's in. She's different; it's a similar case to Sieg and Nightmare, in that just because one of them is in, it doesn't mean the other is pointless, because their styles are different by this point.
However, I agree that Raphael or Amy should definitely be in, though I was confused by your wording of "Raphael AND Amy." Did you mean "Raphael or Amy?", because if not, both of them being in is the same as both Sophitia and Cassandra being in. I say this because you seem objected to Sophi/Cass both being in if it means Raph or Amy not making it in.
 
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