Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

masterROBOMAN

[11] Champion

I tried to draw Inferno, focusing on his appearance from the Story trailer.

And, yeah, I'mma huge fan of this Burning Mokijin)))) I'm really wish he will got his own Fighting Style on the new SC. Mayby, He can be something like Necrid, take a different weapons on specific moves. Ow, BTW, it's going to be interesting when he can transform himself into SoulEdge during a battle and attacks by flying in this form.

P.S.: Sorry for my bad English... i'm not so experienced to typing on it...
 

sytus

[14] Master
I really wish he will got his own Fighting Style in the new SC. Maybe, He can be something like Necrid, take a different weapons on specific moves.
I've always wanted Inferno to have slightly alternative animations of Nightmare's moves that convey chaos, perhaps even buff them slightly with more speed and range. Or we could say sod it, lets go full on SNK boss syndrome. :P
 

Nyte

Fu-ma's Shadow
I wanted to ask what you guys think of a new gameplay aspect. I wasn't paying much attention to it before, but now I've looked at the gameplay again I've realized that the characters with explicit magical elements make much more use of it than in past games. For example, characters that didn't use magic during that actual fighting in the past do, and those who did use it even more prominently.

This includes:
  • Kilik entered a possessed state during his Soul Charge, which is different from the others. In the past, the Evil Seed was a lore element that had no impact on gameplay.
  • Zasalamel using dark sorcery to create vortexes and black holes, and control time.
  • Yoshimitsu (who had some magic before) has a magical trait of draining some health from his opponent by taking their life force after a combo, and his CE has him literally ripping out their soul and crushing it.
  • Nightmare summons a demonic horse during is CE, as opposed to just slashing them.
  • Taki had some magic moves, but it now it's use far more in tandem with her fighting with teleportation, bombs, and blasts showing up much more. Her CE has her using a demon seal to hold them in place.
  • Ivy also uses magic far more than just having a unique weapon. One of her moves involves her summoning a mystic bow and arrow to strike her airborne opponent, and another has her using magical discs.
  • Groh has various stages where magic becomes more prominent depending on how much he's using.
  • Geralt of course mixes swordsmanship with sorcery just as much as his home game.
Overall, I like it. Magic always existed but was treated as an afterthought in past games. I think characters who are supposed to be sorcerers or have inherent magical power should actually use them to fight. It also helps separate them from the ones who don't use magic at all, like Mitsurugi, Xianghua, Maxi and Siegfried.
 

nickbulamadim

[10] Knight
She's a weird freaky bizarre style user

That's quite a big reason to love her

A short spear and shield does not equal weird lance spear thing and dinky sword. Seong-Mina is more accurate a spear user than Hilde and she uses a Naginata

I love the spear, and yet I can't stand and would not use the absurdity that is Hilde. Which should say something.

That "dinky" sword are there to differentiate her from Kilik and Mi-Na and gives her some short ranged quick attacks which I think is quite useful . And that doesn't make her less of a spear user because you know she does wield the spear.
Don't get me wrong though I respect your opinion because not everyone has to like every character, and I am aware that she's quite an unorthodox character but that doesn't make her style useless or half baked.
 

Noctis

[10] Knight
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this specifically, but the Soul Edge Siegfried grabs in the first 5 seconds of the Story Trailer is absolutely Cervantes's. I know the sillhouette/art is one thing, but I dunno if they'd go through the hassle of modeling a nonplayable character's weapon as well.
 

masterROBOMAN

[11] Champion
Peace sign and dominatrix Inferno will be hilarious if he copies CEs.

And cowardly/booty shaking Edgemaster is hilarious enough.
Hm... Actually,Boss Inferno can have mechanic "Critical Twist", Where he, hitting under the CE of the enemy, at a certain moment 'turned over the tables' and used the enemy's CE against himself. For example, When Zasalamel stops time, Inferno can recover and deal a crushing blow before the sorcerer. Or, when Ivy pulled him to her, to step on him, Inferno would change the flight path, grab Ivy, take off with it into the air and tossed it hard on the ground.
 

WuHT

Premium Moderator
in SC6 Taki's 2nd ninja sword also has magical chip-damage properties.

Supernatural characters outnumber the normal humans.

In SC6:
1) Mitsurugi : Normal human (but highly skilled)
2) Sophitia : Normal human with god-blessed weapons
3) Groh: Human that can turn into super human with anime powers
4) Nightmare: Supernatural embodiment of Soul Edge
5) Kilik: Human with Kali-Yuga (2 of the 3 sacred treasures) and Dvapara-Yuga
6) Xianghua: Human with Krita-Yuga (soul calibur)
7) Ivy: Human with living sword + magical alchemy powers
8) Zasalamel: Immortal human with time manipulation powers
9) Geralt: Witcher with magical signs
10) Maxi: Normal human (but highly skilled)
11) Taki: Normal human with demon-busting ninja powers + magical sword
12) Yoshimitsu: Supernatural mecha-human with magical sword and soul stealing abilities
13) Siegfried: Human (was ex-host of Soul Edge, so at this stage he's just highly skilled)

Its a 3:10 ratio so far!
 

Jakajantiamu

[11] Champion
Rock tends to be just as revealing... but so does Voldo.

But if there’s CPU vs CPU, I’m kind of interested in seeing if we can control the camera to get some glamor shots of our custom characters.

I used to set up cpu vs cpu tournaments. It was fun to watch. I'm not sure why I enjoyed it so much.
 

Windstar

[13] Hero
I wanted to ask what you guys think of a new gameplay aspect. I wasn't paying much attention to it before, but now I've looked at the gameplay again I've realized that the characters with explicit magical elements make much more use of it than in past games. For example, characters that didn't use magic during that actual fighting in the past do, and those who did use it even more prominently.

This includes:
  • Kilik entered a possessed state during his Soul Charge, which is different from the others. In the past, the Evil Seed was a lore element that had no impact on gameplay.
  • Zasalamel using dark sorcery to create vortexes and black holes, and control time.
  • Yoshimitsu (who had some magic before) has a magical trait of draining some health from his opponent by taking their life force after a combo, and his CE has him literally ripping out their soul and crushing it.
  • Nightmare summons a demonic horse during is CE, as opposed to just slashing them.
  • Taki had some magic moves, but it now it's use far more in tandem with her fighting with teleportation, bombs, and blasts showing up much more. Her CE has her using a demon seal to hold them in place.
  • Ivy also uses magic far more than just having a unique weapon. One of her moves involves her summoning a mystic bow and arrow to strike her airborne opponent, and another has her using magical discs.
  • Groh has various stages where magic becomes more prominent depending on how much he's using.
  • Geralt of course mixes swordsmanship with sorcery just as much as his home game.
Overall, I like it. Magic always existed but was treated as an afterthought in past games. I think characters who are supposed to be sorcerers or have inherent magical power should actually use them to fight. It also helps separate them from the ones who don't use magic at all, like Mitsurugi, Xianghua, Maxi and Siegfried.

"Magic" as it were, has been a major component to series since Soul Edge. From when Kali-Yuga would howl in Kilik's victory poses in Soul Calibur, to Soul Calibur 2's intro, to the warped world where Inferno runs around. To Cervantes' original victory pose where his swords would circle him and land at his feet while he chuckled. The whole magic element has always been there, but it hasn't always been overt, either because of system limitations, or simply because the gameplay didn't require it. Or simply because there aren't many characters who can use magic in the series.

Most of the magic, of course, has generally been evil in nature, or sourced straight from Soul Edge. Mekki-maru is a fragment of Soul Edge, same with Ivy's blade. Kali-Yuga absorbing the malfested energy of Soul Edge. Some of the magic in the series is also sourced from gods (Sophitia's prayer in the Soul Edge ending to destroy the sword; and everything or nearly, with Astaroth and Ares). The series hasn't really jumped the shark here, although many would consider Algol pushing it and Soul Calibur 5 showing new cases of magic through Viola's weird origins as well as ZWEI's.

Magic independent of Soul Edge has been rare, yet still mostly shown as chaotically evil sourced. Zasalamel's Abyssal powers tend to be aggressively evil in nature, though Zasalamel tends to move from antagonist to neutral in later games. As for Groh, we're not quite sure where his power is sourced. Whether he's partially malfested or cursed through some other artifact isn't clear yet. He is not, however, the first character in the series to display magic or utilize it the way he does. Hopefully, unlike the above mentions from Soul Calibur 5, we get a more concrete understanding of his power and origin.
 

Pac

[10] Knight
in SC6 Taki's 2nd ninja sword also has magical chip-damage properties.

Supernatural characters outnumber the normal humans.

In SC6:
1) Mitsurugi : Normal human (but highly skilled)
2) Sophitia : Normal human with god-blessed weapons
3) Groh: Human that can turn into super human with anime powers
4) Nightmare: Supernatural embodiment of Soul Edge
5) Kilik: Human with Kali-Yuga (2 of the 3 sacred treasures) and Dvapara-Yuga
6) Xianghua: Human with Krita-Yuga (soul calibur)
7) Ivy: Human with living sword + magical alchemy powers
8) Zasalamel: Immortal human with time manipulation powers
9) Geralt: Witcher with magical signs
10) Maxi: Normal human (but highly skilled)
11) Taki: Normal human with demon-busting ninja powers + magical sword
12) Yoshimitsu: Supernatural mecha-human with magical sword and soul stealing abilities
13) Siegfried: Human (was ex-host of Soul Edge, so at this stage he's just highly skilled)

Its a 3:10 ratio so far!

Sophitas a demi-god bruh

And so is Cassandra..who will also be on the game.
 

Klimat

[12] Conqueror
Not sure if it has been posted already, but here we can see VS Battle options available in the current build (skip to 05:25):
CPU vs CPU, Player vs CPU and Player vs Player are all there. Also I wonder what Battle Mode is.
 

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LisaK

[14] Master
Sophitas a demi-god bruh
Sophitia's mother is Nike, but she isn't the Goddess Nike. Sophitia had been grated the protection of the gods as a reward for her faith, so she is only a mortal protect by gods, that is why Pyrrha can fight without having any type of training :sc5pyr1:
Nike passed away due to the stress of her family's tragedies in old timeline
 
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Nyte

Fu-ma's Shadow
"Magic" as it were, has been a major component to series since Soul Edge. From when Kali-Yuga would howl in Kilik's victory poses in Soul Calibur, to Soul Calibur 2's intro, to the warped world where Inferno runs around. To Cervantes' original victory pose where his swords would circle him and land at his feet while he chuckled. The whole magic element has always been there, but it hasn't always been overt, either because of system limitations, or simply because the gameplay didn't require it. Or simply because there aren't many characters who can use magic in the series.

Most of the magic, of course, has generally been evil in nature, or sourced straight from Soul Edge. Mekki-maru is a fragment of Soul Edge, same with Ivy's blade. Kali-Yuga absorbing the malfested energy of Soul Edge. Some of the magic in the series is also sourced from gods (Sophitia's prayer in the Soul Edge ending to destroy the sword; and everything or nearly, with Astaroth and Ares). The series hasn't really jumped the shark here, although many would consider Algol pushing it and Soul Calibur 5 showing new cases of magic through Viola's weird origins as well as ZWEI's.

Magic independent of Soul Edge has been rare, yet still mostly shown as chaotically evil sourced. Zasalamel's Abyssal powers tend to be aggressively evil in nature, though Zasalamel tends to move from antagonist to neutral in later games. As for Groh, we're not quite sure where his power is sourced. Whether he's partially malfested or cursed through some other artifact isn't clear yet. He is not, however, the first character in the series to display magic or utilize it the way he does. Hopefully, unlike the above mentions from Soul Calibur 5, we get a more concrete understanding of his power and origin.
I know all about how magic has been there from the start. But characters weren't fighting with magic, or they weren't using much of it, until now when someone realized that "roster full of characters with special magic" equals "great potential for unique gameplay". I was just pointing that out is all. I like that they're utilizing the more fantastic aspects of the series while still staying true to each character.
 

Ramus

[14] Master
You can’t compare voldo to ivy man. The issue isn’t about amount of skin shown but a woman being presented as a sex object when there isn’t really a male equivalent so it’s not equal. Voldo is not a sex object, he is meant to be creepy. For the record I like that the female characters are still sexy but I can totally see how people might be turned off by it. If ultimately it will be better for the franchise for more modest outfits for females go for that. Whatever is better for the series growth is most important. Getting mad about a video game character being sexy is a little silly, but the skimpiness of SC female outfits shouldn’t be some point of stubborn pride we refuse to budge on, it’s not what’s important about sc.

I think you're a huge hypocrite if you really think there is no Soul Calibur guys who are pure fanservice. They are all tall, handsome guys with a chiseled body, stop nitpicking on something just because it is convenient. Voldo is literally the gimp, the submissive end of a dominatrix, Ivy is dressed as Ivy is dressed, I don't think the design is great in VI, but I don't care because just last game we had a guy in his underwear. People like you will turn a blind a eye to everything that is bad for your argument, or this thinly veiled political opinion you're trying to pass as one.