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There's the story artwork from Soul Chronicle, if that's what's being asked for?Do the DLC characters have new artwork added to the museum?
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There's the story artwork from Soul Chronicle, if that's what's being asked for?Do the DLC characters have new artwork added to the museum?
That artwork should be in the archive I linked to. The DLC artwork I found were character select artwork, story portraits, and the story illustrations.There's the story artwork from Soul Chronicle, if that's what's being asked for?
Yep! Concept arts of Amy and CassDo the DLC characters have new artwork added to the museum?
Oh wow, I never knew those were added. I can try to dig those up later, but I'm pretty sure the resolution of them are super low.Yep! Concept arts of Amy and Cass
I find it hard to believe that's for a Season 3. Mainly because they haven't even finished making Season 2 yet. Remember, it was only made after SCVI's success. I'm sure they have all of S2 planned, but they still have to program everything and test it all out.So actually having a look at the SteamDB items, do you think the new entry could be a premature confirmation of a season 3? It's totally offset, the AppID:
The DLC7-DLC14 will probably be jumbled up, looking at the first season pass, but there's definitely enough slots for it. If it was, for whatever reason, some kind of extra free bonus, it's maybe a little odd that the number is after the season pass numbers, though if it wasn't planned, and a surprise just added, it could still be whatever. It's probably not related to the second season pass, though, if the numbers amount to anything.
I think quite a few have been hoping for that since his fighting style is already in the game.How would you feel if they threw in Lizardman as a free bonus DLC character, like Shizumaru Hisame in Samurai Shodown? That would be pretty cool.
I'd be surprised to see any character with their own style ever given away as a freebie, regardless of whether the foundation for their moveset was already complete at the point of the main game's launch. If we're getting Lizardman as a playable, fully developed character, I'd say its almost certainly in a season pass.I think quite a few have been hoping for that since his fighting style is already in the game.
What do you mean? The sales have been reported as being better than SCV. Plus there’s digital. I estimate that physical and digital combined the sales are somewhere from 1.5 to 2.I'd be surprised to see any character with their own style ever given away as a freebie, regardless of whether the foundation for their moveset was already complete at the point of the main game's launch. If we're getting Lizardman as a playable, fully developed character, I'd say its almost certainly in a season pass.
But, to answer Nyte's question, I'd be pretty psyched about it: things like that buy a lot of fan loyalty, I feel, but given the budget and development constraints this game labours under, I very much doubt PS can get Namco to greenlight anything beyond what they are already doing (the occasional free CaS item, possibly the new stages, and who knows, maybe Edge Master as a mimic at some point) as a freebie. Contrary to the assessment that "the game clearly is selling really well, since they authorized a second season pass", I don't think we can really be certain of this. Namco made some vague statements back in the first quarter suggesting that the game was selling well (relative to whatever metric they were using/pre-release target projection they were aiming for), but the company has a vested interest in playing up its level of satisfaction with sales. The reality is that the best data we have suggests the game's lifetime sales will probably not much exceed SCV's 1.5 million.
All of that considered, one might well ask "Well, isn't the second season itself an indication that the sales, lackluster as they might be compared against the more successful fighters, are at least sufficient (relative to the game's budget) to justify further investment?" And I think the answer to that question is yes and no. I think the real motivation here is that Namco is now seizing every opportunity it can get to normalize season passes as the status quo for its fighters--this has long been an objective of developers and publishers (particularly in the fighting genre) who do not have enough market share to offset the spiraling costs of production relative to a fixed cost for the base game, but consumers have pushed back against it (sometimes for good cause, but more frequently from a poorly reasoned sense of entitlement, and to their own detriment, imo). Now Namco (and other devs) see their moment and really want to set up this new continuing support purchase model, so that they can start making their fighters as big as they used to be (or indeed, bigger) while being able to scale the price they ask for all of that content.
So it would probably make sense for Namco to support a second and third season for Soulcalibur even with it's at-best-moderate sales, just to give more push to establishing this as the new standard content model. But on top of that, there's also the fact that they can actually make a potentially much larger profit--relative to the amount of work/resources put into the amount of content--from DLC than they do from the base game (though it depends on their meeting a certain sales threshold). So there's that too. But I don't think sales have been so stellar on any element of the game that they are likely to just start giving away full characters, with complete movesets: such content represents a substantial commitment of resources in a 3D fighter, and I don't see them given that away. I still hold out hope for Edge Master as a freebie, however. Surely someone on the team must have floated the idea at some point in the last two and half years.
What are you basing that estimate on? Because if this game had already sold 2 million units, I guarantee you, Namco would not be keeping their hat on that information: it would constitute a runaway success for a game of its profile: not even Tekken 7 (from Namco's vastly more popular and lucrative franchise) sold 2 million in 10 months. As to the sales of SCVI being reported as better than SCV, that's not technically true: as I said in the previous post, all we know with certainty is that Namco claims to have been happy with the first quarter sales. Which, A) companies always put a rosey spin on sales, and one should be especially skeptical about those assertions when the company doesn't also decide to disclose the actual sales figures, and B) even if that sentiment was more or less genuine, those reports come from the first quarter, after which sales can (and typically do) fall off precipitously for most games.What do you mean? The sales have been reported as being better than SCV. Plus there’s digital. I estimate that physical and digital combined the sales are somewhere from 1.5 to 2.
I’m kinda in the boat where despite the success in sales of SCVI I wouldn’t say the series is really up there quite yet. Don’t get me wrong, even with the things the game improved on over SCV it certainly had to take steps back from it. Plus, much like V it was under a limited budget (granted V suffered a budget cut due to natural disasters).What are you basing that estimate on? Because if this game had already sold 2 million units, I guarantee you, Namco would not be keeping their hat on that information: it would constitute a runaway success for a game of its profile: not even Tekken 7 (from Namco's vastly more popular and lucrative franchise) sold 2 million in 10 months. As to the sales of SCVI being reported as better than SCV, that's not technically true: as I said in the previous post, all we know with certainty is that Namco claims to have been happy with the first quarter sales. Which, A) companies always put a rosey spin on sales, and one should be especially skeptical about those assertions when the company doesn't also decide to disclose the actual sales figures, and B) even if that sentiment was more or less genuine, those reports come from the first quarter, after which sales can (and typically do) fall off precipitously for most games.
Now, while we don't have official figures, there are analyst sites that attempt to create projections based on indirect marketplace data. The best case scenario (highest sales) projection that I could find in that regard suggests maybe 1.2-1.3 million in sales. Which if accurate would put it on track to overtake SCV during its lifetime sales, but just barely (for most games, very few sales take place after the first year). This would seem to be more or less consistent with the rather lackluster level of activity we see for the game on all the platforms it has bee released for. Sadly, I think the notion that SCVI completely "revitalized" the series is more myth than fact--a story the community fabricated for itself based on one piece of positive spin put out two months after the game released (which is presumably precisely why Namco publicized the information to begin with, to help drive the idea of the game as a success, to drive sales). Beyond all of that, even if the game had significantly outsold SCV, it still wouldn't necessarily mean much, given V was a commercial flop.
Mind you, I'm not saying that SCVI is a failure, but rather that it was only a marginal success. I think most vets are in agreement that it is an improvement, in many (but certainly not all) respects, over SCV. So it has probably helped improve the franchise's standing in the genre, and it could very well be the beginning of the series clawing its way back up to prominence. And actually, the continuing support/season pass model may draw out the lifetime sales some--it's hard to say, since this kind of truly long-term continuing support sales model is somewhat uncharted territory for this part of the industry. All I'm saying is that I think we can attribute the decision to go with two (and indeed, I suspect eventually three) season passes for this game has to do with factors that go beyond this one game, and the existence of season two does not indicate in itself that SCVI was a runaway success. In fact, in some respects, I would say it's almost the opposite: Namco is doing the continuing support model because it knows (and like all other fighter publishers, has known for a good long while) that it can't continue to stay truly profitable on this type of game based just on the sales of the base product, which has a locked pricepoint.
Oh wow, I never knew those were added. I can try to dig those up later, but I'm pretty sure the resolution of them are super low.
Yes, the second image of just the background is what I'm looking for for Amy! Thanks again Sectus <333To give an example of what gallery art is missing when it comes to the DLC characters it will be in a similar vain as these. There's definitely stuff missing for Amy and Cassandra but I don't know if there is any for 2B.
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