Yoshimitsu Web Theater.

I saw the videos. Nice yoshi, very good use of tekken moves, 33B… What's up with 3A+B though lol :)

Here's my two cents on each matchup:

– I only played against Esom, Ahriman and a polish player (can't remember the name) as good Voldo players but from my experience, iMCF is veeery strong against Voldo, up close he can't do much if you spam it. 4A+B is also very good. At mid-range, step and whiff punish Voldo with 4K/33B or come close using 33B/FC 3K. Also sometimes FC 3K will combo with doorknocker just like against Mitsurugi :)

– Against Mitsurugi, never ever forget to use FC 3K, 6A+BBBB (doorknocker) combo! This alone gives yoshi a nice RO advantage against Mitsurugi. If your opponent is careful about it, just use 4KB or other mix-ups.
Against mitsu in general,
• punish 1A with 6K2K
• When you block mist 6B of mitsu try 66A, you'll get a CH depending on what your opponent does. He can use relic A if he's close, but it's pretty risky for him since you can duck and punish. Or he can use relic A+B+K auto-GI, again not without risks.

– Against Maxi, you have to learn the blockstun/hitsun traps, most of the damage you took was because of this. A lot of Maxi's attacks are strings and you can usually punish him by using a TC move (214A, iMCF, even 1K sometimes). 4A+B is good too, sometimes you'll end up on Maxi's back allowing you to punish him (most of the time you're too far to backthrow him). Of course your opponent can also play poke/safe style but yoshi is better at this.

– Against Siegfried, always punish WS,B and 3B with AA (or 6K2K against 3B if you can). Up close, again, use iMCF. You'll eventually hit on CH, and it's almost no risk since the recovery is so fast. Against turtling siegfried it's more complicated, he has pretty good moves. Use step guard to come close and try to step-punish with 6K2K. You can try some 8A+B~G but a lot of his moves can hit you up there. Step to 214A is very good against throws or random 3Bs.

Just general thoughts, not necessarily all related to your videos :)
 
wait does BT 2K combo into Doorknocker? The end of the second tourny vid against mitsurugi when he get ringed out, is that a combo?
 
Also BT 2K, DNK is guaranteed against all other BT opponents. Most notably Voldo, since he is often BT. Perhaps that Mitsu was slightly facing right, giving Yoshi the right alignment for the DNK to connect a la FC 3K, DNK?
 
Hey Crimson, came across this and thought I'd point out a few things about the Voldo match. We played recently actually, pretty close you said I used lag tactics haha but that's for another day. Vs the Voldo: remember that Voldo can punish with 66:B for quite a lot of damage. You used a few very punishable moves that he didn't punish luckily for you, 3B, 9B+K B (or whatever it is). In particular, 3B I think is -17 on block and therefore 66:B punishable for over 60 damage. Same thing with the latter parts of the 33B string, the K is very punishable.

You had a lot of gauge problems throughout the matches. You need to contest 3BB use more fiercely, more parries/impacts. I think it's possible to GI the second one on reaction if you are looking for it. There's a video on this site with a Voldo that is using 3BB pretty often and just paying like crazy for it. 3BB does too much gauge damage to let Voldo get away with using it. I think it's also at least AA punishable.

Also, vs 2A+B: he used the 236B continuation on you constantly. 236B blocked is -1000 or something like that, basically any combo for free, i.e. at least 4K. Should try that a couple of times. You can duck after 2A+B and rise on reaction to 236K, it's the only mid and it's i24 I think and pretty distinctive. Watch out for cancels. Also, Voldo's 4A+B (he used this a couple of times, no idea why that move is garbage) is punishable on block and - a bunch on hit.

In the last round, you got caught up pretty bad in Voldo's back turned mixup. Some things to keep in mind: BS66A is punishable (6K2K) so if you block that you're good. BS 1A does catch step decently at maximum range, so don't try to step it the way you did. In fact, you ate a lot of BS1A the whole match. The thing is, BS1A is not punishable for anything half decent by Yoshi. What you need to do (unless you can block it on reaction consistently and just take a mixup) is guess using DGF/FLE stance. If you guess correctly you get more damage than BS1A does. Also: nasty secret, but when Voldo is doing the BS mixup at maximum range, most of the mids he has don't do all that much damage. 3B isn't in range, most people don't like using 22B cause it takes you out of blind stance... so people use stuff like 66A or 66B or WS A. So this is a further incentive to use BS1A, because the mid options aren't as good. So you really need to do something to force him to use BS1A less. I think he literally landed BS1A every time he tried it, and he tried it quite a bit.

Note that on the flip side he never tried guessing once against iFC3K, and you used it a lot, and that move is punishable for 65 damage. He also never guessed against your DGF mixup vs grounded, which is a pretty risky mixup.

I'm also curious why you like doorknocker outside of combos so much, never understood that. There's better moves and it's very vulnerable to a knowledgeable opponent (hits high in the middle twice in a row).
 
Yeah, I find BT 2K, DNK to land a lot more near edges. Although if you get that same alignment for iFC3K, DNK.. same combo properties.

I kept failing 33A+B.. the controller took my input for 3A+B instead. I use 33A+B to catch tech off of 33B,[B+K] on air-borne enemies, a trick I learned all to well from Lolo. I haven't had my stick for a while now and had to get used to the D-Pad all over again.

Maxi, blah.. I have no offline practice against him. My GI timing feels off, (probably due to only playing him on-line) against a lot of his see-able strings.

And my biggest weakness is not properly punishing Voldo, and about three others from the cast . I'll get used to seeing 3BB on reaction, but on-line beefs it up well. A useful trick someone taught me for off-line is listening to buttons being pressed, which helps a lot, especially if they play stick as well. I've just haven't the time to practice against on-line players to get used to the lag anymore. And Nirf, I'm sure the only real lag tact I tried to speak of is WR B which is -16 or more, to 1A. I saw that a couple times, again me not punishing properly. Though, definate lag tactic, but I'm not sure if it was maybe due to failed inputs? Maybe supposed to be WR A, -4 or so on block ??

More to come by Suinday, thanks for everyone's inputs.
 
Not sure what of Maxi's you're trying to GI. I will say that a good portion of Maxi's strings can be interrupted by a simple AA or 2A.
 
I think the move you mean is FC3B, WRB does not leave Voldo in BS. FC3B is negative on block but it has huge pushback. Also, I think it recovers crouched, although I could be mistaken. In this case you wouldn't be able to 6K2K punish it. However, I don't think FC3B into 1A is a lag tactic per se, I mean come on if it's a -16 move into an i22 move you can easily, easily, even online hit me with 4KB (if it reaches). The point of that string (which I used vs short range characters some times) is that FC3B has such good pushback that it restricts some characters options. A lot of people run in so they can apply a grab mixup, some people try to respond with long ranger high's, etc. BS 1A stops all this stuff. When I use it there, I don't really care that it's a low, just that it catches TC and step and TC's itself. If someone just starts throwing out mids immediately after FC3B of course I'll stop using it. But then I'm causing my opponent to hand me back the initiative after I block their mid in the future. Anyhow, it's not something I'd expect to get away with much against a good player but I don't see how its boosted online. Unlike say, iFC3K which online is fast enough that sometimes even when I guess low I'm too slow guessing to catch it on block.
 
More vids..

Crimson VS Enkindu
Crimson VS Enkindu Pt 2
Hajime: Thanks for the info, I'll be trying to clean up my Yoshi game.
 
Furzy! Watched those vids man... I got! to give you props.... I think your top yoshi in the world...
You do almost everything a good yoshi should... You could get a little crazier with stances and mind games but I get it
its tourney play so your not being insane with him.... (but you still use them) Tech traps as well...

Your matches impress the hell out of me though.... Your playstyle is alot like mine... Cept your defense is wayyy better haha
cuz I have no good practice buddies :(

Use other tools from SDGF, MED, and FLEA, you usually do only one move from the three stances ( then you usually will try that same move in that stance again )... wouldnt hurt to mix it up
people step your SDGF B, so come down with a Throw or A once in a while... even B+K or 2B+K6. (All you cant be punished that badly for)

Ive had SDGF B+K straight into 8/9A+K mess many people up, some very good... Just saying throw it out you only have knowledge to gain by seeing how your opponent reacts to it, once in a while.

Most people arent used to seeing alot of shit he can do out of stance.

Just wanted to tell you though dude, Your yoshi is sick.... Good Luck in Cannes... Be confident no matter who your fighitng, you have all the tools needed to win and rep Yosh hard! Namuuuu
 
Haha thanks man, that's really nice to hear! Don't know about top yoshi in the world though, DTN usually gets better results than me and I still never played HajimeOwari or Lolo. I'd love to come to USA, I'll try and save some money for the next big tourney.

You say you don't have good practice buddies. Here in switzerland, I only have two sparring buddies, and one of them I see once every 2 months or so. If you want to progress you HAVE to travel and meet other players. Practice is good, but nothing can replace experience.

I'll try and do my best in Cannes, but it's gonna be tough, lots of top players are coming. But first is Gnouz Calibur Contest in Paris next week-end, it will be a good opportunity to sharpen my yoshi!

By the way, I just acquired an HD PVR to encode matches on the computer so expect some HD quality vids coming on my youtube account soon!
 
Fock DTN Im tellin you dude he dont got shit on you... You just need confidence... and good I got my HD PVR too :) I can record our iMCF challenges now :) haha

Hajime and LoLo are good yes but lolo is peaced out and his on to X LoL traitor.. and Hajime is in Japan...

Im telling you Furzy your top yoshi... keep that shit up...
 
Hajime.....I'm sorry, lol......looks like I wont be able to carry on the Yoshi torch in NorCal
 
God at the CF's LoL Whiffed GI's was getting you into trouble... So are you really trying to play yoshi? Or was this just a bet/test/joke/fun thing?

Was this against krayzie? I mean he didnt have to use maxi shit... lol Nice maxi though, weird flow, I like it. Id give you some yoshi tips but I got a feeling you wont be playing him much...
 
Fock DTN Im tellin you dude he dont got shit on you... You just need confidence... and good I got my HD PVR too :) I can record our iMCF challenges now :) haha

Hajime and LoLo are good yes but lolo is peaced out and his on to X LoL traitor.. and Hajime is in Japan...

Im telling you Furzy your top yoshi... keep that shit up...


Im not a traitor, Yoshi will always be my main in SC4, and I don´t know, from the retro feed of the frenches and Docvizzo, they told me Im somewhat better than Furzy, tough at least on PS3, my execution is way behind Furzy's, on Xbox pad, about the same.

I haven´t been playing for a while, but I do play from time to time
 
LoL just give the guy props... Dudes staple combo off of iMCF is iMCF rcc 3AB 44BB 33B,B+K... Thats some shit to just pull out of no where everytime... His step is just as good as yours... Execution looks to be as good as yours... I'd say your mind games are better of course... Im just saying overall for active yoshis he is probably the best one I see right now...

Maybe goto Cannes and prove me wrong LoLo? :)
 
@RedDjinn: I appreciate the compliments but really, I don't need anyone to say "Furzy is best yoshi of the wooorld". If I wanna brag, I can do it myself :p

@Lolo: Glad to hear you didn't stop playing yoshi. I see I'll have to remind doc who's the best yoshi out there ;) Hope I can play you before SC5!
 
I think when it comes to knowledge concerning the character and using its strenght etc, lolo and furzy seemed to be on the same level, though i cant really judge since i coulnt really play on this shit console. Both very good Yoshis is a good compromise i guess :)

A lot more important: Where are the vids against Panto from the weekend??
 
I know you dont need it... I dont care Im expressing my opinion which I am free to do...

LoLo is awesome, hes very original and solid as well. He already knows hes the shit... You however clearly do not...

Forgive me for giving you props, I'll have to make sure I dont do it again... Either way long as you dont choke youll do good at Cannes... Dont worry about names worry about your game... ~

LoLo knows im just fcking around anyways... We been playing since like day 2 lol

K to make everyone happy on this side of the world LoLo's got it, on your side Furzys got it, Hajime has the asian side... LoL We stand divided... :)
 
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